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Friday, August 8th 2014, 9:04pm

Intoshadows

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Gee, sure is inspirational for new players to know that they are getting bent over the barrel and get applied 10 stacks of "Raw Without Lube" effect to the behind.

All said though, even with inflated and absurd Cash Shop prices, Allods is still hands down worth the investment over many other MMO's out there.

In my case, I justify spending money on Allods because I am no longer paying monthly for Wow(as well as several other monthly subscription fees) so that, in essence, "frees" up approximately 75-125$(Us) monthly to play with.

I't still is a bad feeling knowing you are paying double or even triple what players of another country are required too, not to mention paying far more than if I had joined Sarnaut a few months ago!

Such is the world.

Bu mesaj 1 defa düzenlendi, son düzenlemeyi yapan "Intoshadows" (Aug 9th 2014, 4:56pm)


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Saturday, August 9th 2014, 1:31am

Here is their response to the topic! Lmao :whistling:

From today on RU customers get 30% more crystals when buying!
http://allods.mail.ru/news.php?article=4567



What are you going to do when there is a fire? Simply, you just af oil to it! Lmao :thumbup:

Edit: after browsing the RU forums i also saw they got the free incense and mountfeed quest in 5.02.. So now they have the same benefits! Also their newcommers get bonus first time they fill up! If you fill up 800 BC you get a mount, 36 bag, bigger quest log etc!

Bu mesaj 2 defa düzenlendi, son düzenlemeyi yapan "Blessme" (Aug 9th 2014, 1:43am)


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Saturday, August 9th 2014, 2:13am

Working as intended.
Screw over NA/EU and other sever all in one
:rolleyes:


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Saturday, August 9th 2014, 7:03am

GuessItsAmber

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All said though, even with inflated and absurd Cash Shop prices, Allods is still hands down worth the investment over many other MMO's out there.

Depends on how you look at it.
The way I look at it is, 4 years of playing this game and 4 years of being a CS user (not the currency exchange) and waiting over 3 weeks from the first time I tried to send a ticket, post in the forum, post gets locked and finally being able to get it to go through now 5 days ago for a quest I need to finish to advance so I dont have to buy xp scrolls or whatever they are called now a days tells me that it isnt worth the investment at all.

It is reasons like this that people get (tries to find a non curse word) upset and flame or actually tell what is on their mind.

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Sunday, August 10th 2014, 12:50am

Actually, if you're one of the no-lifers who just play 10h+/day and don't spend any money, the difference isn't all that big because their exchange rate is much worse. Even in this case - they have it cheaper.


Apparently my information was quite outdated. Their exchange rate is 270g/crystal now so pure free2play players have much higher buying power in here than in Russia.

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Sunday, August 10th 2014, 2:41pm

Here is their response to the topic! Lmao

From today on RU customers get 30% more crystals when buying!
http://allods.mail.ru/news.php?article=4567

What are you going to do when there is a fire? Simply, you just af oil to it! Lmao

Edit: after browsing the RU forums i also saw they got the free incense and mountfeed quest in 5.02.. So now they have the same benefits! Also their newcommers get bonus first time they fill up! If you fill up 800 BC you get a mount, 36 bag, bigger quest log etc!
And now from today on RU customers: -50% on mounts:
http://allods.mail.ru/news.php?article=4546

What did we got here on this server? False informations and hidden increase of the price of runes threw the removal of the stacks of 100 crystal chip.

That's just miserably pitiful!

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Sunday, August 10th 2014, 3:54pm

I think that trying to explain the concept of Purchasing Power Parity to someone in this forum is a wasted effort akin to playing chess with a pigeon, Dhamp.
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Sunday, August 10th 2014, 5:57pm

Edit: Screw this, removed contents. I feel bad starting drama :rolleyes:

Bu mesaj 4 defa düzenlendi, son düzenlemeyi yapan "Dala" (Aug 10th 2014, 6:07pm)


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Monday, August 11th 2014, 12:23am

Intoshadows

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Edit: Screw this, removed contents. I feel bad starting drama :rolleyes:
It's okay. People are allowed to have varying opinions on the subject, it is healthy for growth of discussion.

Sure math can dictate some things(like price of wages, etc, etc) but one can still look at the base facts objectively.

Which bring me to a question: I have heard it said that although the prices in cash shop has gone up exponentially, that the amount of gold one can obtain at max level somewhat displaces this "higher" cost of living(in game living, so to speak). How much truth is to this?

I.e. does the cash shop prices(and run prices alternatively) still remain reasonable due to an increase(or ease of obtaining) gold pieces?

Also, I understand that reasonable is objective, but I more or less mean "relatively speaking".

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Monday, August 11th 2014, 12:47am

You Can not use the buying power in rusia, also there are a lot of different ways to calculate the buying power. Do you Care to explain which one you picked? From those i use, which i Can provide links on, the rusia buying power is High. But like i Said , it can't be used, wonder why? Because the buying power is so split in rusia. 20% of the nation is rich, the other part are below average.. Looking at the big mac index you also see that it is a lot cheaper to live in RU compared to EU countries.

So the nations buying power is showing to be the 9th highest in the world, but the big Mac index shows a cheaper living cost, which reflects my statement about the gap :)

Anyway, looking at Europe you Can find countries were people are even more poor than the rusian ones. Take a look at greece, or other eastern European countries.. Or look at the unemployment in spain and italy. Why should they pay as much as a nortern European country?

I do not know why they made their system so that we would pay xxx amounts more, since a lowered Price would increase the playerbase over time, but they sure had their reason. And i def dont think it was either of those i used in this comment.. They didn't lower the NA Price doing the financial crises(exemple)

My most qualified guess are dumb consumers who dont demand enough. Look at the RU forums, much more complain :)

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Monday, August 11th 2014, 12:55am

Edit: Screw this, removed contents. I feel bad starting drama :rolleyes:
It's okay. People are allowed to have varying opinions on the subject, it is healthy for growth of discussion.

Sure math can dictate some things(like price of wages, etc, etc) but one can still look at the base facts objectively.

Which bring me to a question: I have heard it said that although the prices in cash shop has gone up exponentially, that the amount of gold one can obtain at max level somewhat displaces this "higher" cost of living(in game living, so to speak). How much truth is to this?

I.e. does the cash shop prices(and run prices alternatively) still remain reasonable due to an increase(or ease of obtaining) gold pieces?

Also, I understand that reasonable is objective, but I more or less mean "relatively speaking".
Looking from the F2P perspective much hasn't changed. Rune cost doesn't impact that much at the lower runes, like 4-6/7.
Gold Can be gotten easily, and the situationen hasn't changed much from last year. Maybe it's a little harder now.

The problem will be what happens when the higher guys are maxed on gears and dont exchange crystals to gold for progress. That's when we will see the huge increase on the shard NPC. And with the BC's getting from your money now they scare the casual payers away, so who to pay when that happens? I would def had used more money now if i got the same amount of BC's as with gpotatoe :)

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Monday, August 11th 2014, 5:12pm

reeah19

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Anyway, looking at Europe you Can find countries were people are even more poor than the rusian ones. Take a look at greece, or other eastern European countries.. Or look at the unemployment in spain and italy. Why should they pay as much as a nortern European country?


east europe minimum wage is around 150 euro so you can lol, doubt most of young ppl have more... anyway Dala meant buying power for in game farming, not real life, ru at 270g per crystals is worse than our prices atm

i agree some prices in CS went to very high making it harder to get em, the biggest problem is that the game isn't attracting any new players, hence less income for publisher, their marketing departament isn't doing any good to the game.

slow progress in gearing is also killing the fun, im about to finish upgrading gear of a kind but im far from opening next layer so it'll just be wasted time/keys
Fireofdeath -70 - demonologist
Puffypuf - 65 - furball warden
Rensy - 65 - paladin
Akyrra - 70 - psionicist healer
Turquiose - 60 - bard
Springfull - 60 - mage
FoxBee - 31 warden

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Monday, August 11th 2014, 8:16pm

the biggest problem is that the game isn't attracting any new players, hence less income for publisher, their marketing departament isn't doing any good to the game.


That's the case for years now and the game is still standing, it clearly doesn't aim for many new, it aims for little but long-term.

This isn't about marketing department, the f2p server is just very, very new-player-unfriendly, that's how the game works. Any potential new player who could be drawn in by advertising would quickly leave after crashing against great concrete wall.

Advertising could possibly only help the p2p, not the f2p.

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Monday, August 11th 2014, 8:33pm

Edit: Screw this, removed contents. I feel bad starting drama :rolleyes:
It's okay. People are allowed to have varying opinions on the subject, it is healthy for growth of discussion.

Sure math can dictate some things(like price of wages, etc, etc) but one can still look at the base facts objectively.

Which bring me to a question: I have heard it said that although the prices in cash shop has gone up exponentially, that the amount of gold one can obtain at max level somewhat displaces this "higher" cost of living(in game living, so to speak). How much truth is to this?

I.e. does the cash shop prices(and run prices alternatively) still remain reasonable due to an increase(or ease of obtaining) gold pieces?

Also, I understand that reasonable is objective, but I more or less mean "relatively speaking".



if you play every day, participate in all events that give gold ( KOE, TKARIK, BG etc.) and do not waste gold you will have more than enough gold to upgrade gear, upgrade gyphs, (slowly) upgrade runes and there will still be something left

i know that i am NOT the perfect example of a typical allods-player, but if i do "minimum effort" plastyle because i have no time for the game i still get ~ 5000 gold / day minimum... normally
but usually more

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