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i honestly dont get it why some people have trouble with this topic

being a free player for so many years and gaining basically everything (except the orange / teal earringslot) including level 9 runes ingame i can certainly say that over time, as an active player, you will get everything useful

so unless you spend all of your gold on consumables which leave you back with nothing, or vanity which has no statpoints, you should be fine


given on how LARGE this game is with all its content, it is no wonder it takes time to achieve certain goals - but this is not a bad thing considering how dull games feel where you are done after 2 weeks playing
there are already so many "shortcuts" and so many things that allow to really fast catch up

so instead of expensive i would call thing game wide-ranging in terms of character-development - as you can speed up most things with a donation, things CAN get expensive but its your decision

where you say you could donate 100$ and nothing would change, thats equivalent to saying you could spend 1 hour and nothing would change (where nothing means very little)
the further your character-development goes, the longer things take - thats what keeps the game interesting, at least for many including myself

i am unhappy when games that are "over" fast, losing interest in a game you enjoy is a sad thing
allods is one of the few which have kept my interest over time, i am in this game over 10 years now
i still see (lots) of things i want to do and still have not done

now i certainly could just invest some $ and have all at once but that would mean i would deprive myself of all that process of gaining that gold ingame
its like when you play diablo 2 and give yourself everything in character editor and suddenly you are done with the game ._.
the pleasent way is gaining all these things

unlinke in real life, where it is great to be set for life and having nothing to do, knowing you could just do nothing all day and still have everything, in games, the journey is the reward

Quoted from "Obeik"

I play on the F2P server because that's where I started and I've invested far too much to switch to the P2P server.

This.
If people keep falling over this, you've just become your own money's slave.

Quoted from "ALLODS-ONLINE-PLAYER"

i honestly dont get it why some people have trouble with this topic

being a free player for so many years and gaining basically everything (except the orange / teal earringslot) including level 9 runes ingame i can certainly say that over time, as an active player, you will get everything useful

so unless you spend all of your gold on consumables which leave you back with nothing, or vanity which has no statpoints, you should be fine


given on how LARGE this game is with all its content, it is no wonder it takes time to achieve certain goals - but this is not a bad thing considering how dull games feel where you are done after 2 weeks playing
there are already so many "shortcuts" and so many things that allow to really fast catch up

so instead of expensive i would call thing game wide-ranging in terms of character-development - as you can speed up most things with a donation, things CAN get expensive but its your decision

where you say you could donate 100$ and nothing would change, thats equivalent to saying you could spend 1 hour and nothing would change (where nothing means very little)
the further your character-development goes, the longer things take - thats what keeps the game interesting, at least for many including myself

i am unhappy when games that are "over" fast, losing interest in a game you enjoy is a sad thing
allods is one of the few which have kept my interest over time, i am in this game over 10 years now
i still see (lots) of things i want to do and still have not done

now i certainly could just invest some $ and have all at once but that would mean i would deprive myself of all that process of gaining that gold ingame
its like when you play diablo 2 and give yourself everything in character editor and suddenly you are done with the game ._.
the pleasent way is gaining all these things

unlinke in real life, where it is great to be set for life and having nothing to do, knowing you could just do nothing all day and still have everything, in games, the journey is the reward

I agree this with every words.

Get everything in weeks or months, feel you succeed and delete the game. After that switch to a new game. Perspective on the games is like this nowadays; disposable.

Allods offers more than that, Allods gives a long-term path to purpose to player, that's what makes Allods special. I am here for over 10 years but Allods is not suitable for people who want to get everything right away and are bored.

There are many games in the format you want, but there is no game like Allods.

when you play 3 years active and semi-active for another so 4 in total, of course you have "less" than someone playing straight every day fully active for 10 years
allods being a progressive games means the more time (and time is exchangeable with money in most cases) is spent, the stronger you become

contrary, those who have invested LESS time than you will be below you of course in means of possession of rare items. these items can make up a little of gear-deficit but not completely replace a proper set of gear.
so being a veteran, you can afford to slack a little bit

now of course things are not so strict in reality and basically, every gearreset (every few months) ANYBODY can be top competitive theoretically, given he is willing to put the effort it takes to properly gear up (confession: i often do not put the needed effort)
even if you have less items than another player and probably runes level 7 or 8, you will be able to win a 1 vs 1 fight against someone with "full items" (including runes lv 13)
also, if you play active, you will get all useable / reasonable items soon for sure for small money by picking up tradeoffers from worldchat or monitoring auctions

in the end it comes down to what spec you have (preparation, specific PVP build!), how good you understand the gamemechanics ("skill", knowledge) and most important your gear (effort) - itemshops and runes are a great bonus but not what decides the game at the end... itemshop and runes are compareable to a multiplier while gear is the base number... low base number, multiplier wont matter so much...

in the past i made a thread listing pretty much ALL factors if victory in a PVP battle, if you want to read and cant find it tell me and i will search and post it again

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so lets start discussing the point you made... there are people for which money is not a concern so much and there are those, who are not concerned about money at all due to being clever in RL or being lucky. it is a reasonable decision when running a FREE game to offer these people a proper "thank you" for donating. lets be honest. if you open 500 strongboxes... what do you get? basically the same as someone who just "snipes" a tradeoffer / auction - the main item. the box-opener gets those collectors coins (what REAL use do they have...?) and they get the prize of the "daily lottery" which is this turret that not really matters at he end, a larger sum of gold (does not really matter aswell if you donate you can get huge masses of gold by exchange anyway) and a special SKIN (again, gameplaywise irrelevant)

you just get things a bit faster than if you wait for auctions or traders
AND there is the SMALL chance of getting the item a LOT cheaper in CASE you are LUCKY - some players enjoy this kind of gamble

in the whole game, there are only 3 kinds of strongboxes where i participated, i farmed 30.000 BC+ in advance for the lightningbolt and later the monolith. i won the lightning bolt VERY lucky after a few boxes already - so it was even ceahper than buying from auction or trade
the monolith however i spent over 30.000 BC in total (also farmed) and barely got all the 100 parts needed to build it

all other items i bought directly for gold from an auction or direct trade which saved me a TON of gold

for reference: being an ACTIVE farmer makes you AROUND 350 BC a day, being an ACTIVE trader means no limit in gains, just like in RL


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premium bonuses are aswell nice (really) but just a matter of comfort at the end of the day. what of these things is actually useful? a dedicated player has all these things (only exception is the automatic emergency suit repair thing) so he wont need them anyway. though its maybe interesting for example to get this coremorpher or these temporary level 13 runes or whatever. when i looked at the boni i saw nothing i do not already have and want (again, only exception is the automatic emergency suit repair thing, but you can automate that otherwise so its not relevant)
other than that: some special emojis (???), more of these BG emblems (you get them anyway) - i dont remember the rest accurately, it was something not relevant to me

about runes in general, as noted above, they are pretty much a multiplier of the power of your gear
having the highest level of runes, there is not so much difference to someone having them a bit lower. i can comfortably say with level 8 runes, you dont really need to worry

you might want to try seeing the cash shop as something that does not demand anything of you. try to see it as an option to get a little "thank you" if you donate for this wonderful game - a thank you as of getting things a bit ahead of those who do not donte

so why would you donate 200$+ ? there are only 2 reasons to do so. "1" is you want things faster than through ingame-gold-gaining and "2" is you want to support the game. for some its maybe a mix of both.

if one would like FF14 or wow better than allods, i assume he would play these anyway? why wouldnt he?
i play allods because i like it more than these games, i really love this game; still. only wish i had more time to play it

i am happy we had a fruitful conversation about this
good job leveling to 40 so fast

for me leveling was always the most exciting part of the game (and the PVP that occurs WHILE the leveling, especially in asee teph!)

with enjoying the tory and atmosphere you cant do anything wrong
allods is a great "singleplayergame" aswell

we know there are players who blame their own inability to play properly on everything else but themselves (the same that call everyone a hacker and aimbot in shootergames as soon as they get fragged)

however i did not see your writing as a brainless flaming at all but rather an invitation to have a constructive discussion - exactly what we had in the end

the nostalgia factor is aswell very strong in allods
since we have al-riagt as a gearing-zone i am quite happy with gearup given you can effectively get up to 109% being a soloplayer just doing dailies

i am currently getting orange gear by replacing my old purple parts, every new part feels like a great achievement
similar to you, i enjoy multiple characters as i like to change classes. this ended in having 13 chars on the main (1 progenitor and 12 reincarnations) on max level with a personal allod and horns of plenty, along with many more additional max level chars. due to the servermerges, i have triple the amount of chars you can normally have now. everyone of them is able to get me some gold, i think you can imagine where this leads

if you really want to put the effort and level your chars, do it. for the reincarnations its the easiest way as they share everything with the progenitor
leveling your reincarnations benefits your main char aswell by the rein-skills AND the additional gold these make

but if this is too much, you can still do as you wish - play casually, play only from time to time and enjoy the nostalgia, play not at all... you decide
game will be there and welcome you back with open arms