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ähm you rrly want to use tornado? wouldnt recommend it actually for 2 reasons: 1 its rather weak 2 you need to take elemental dmg then when you dont use tornado you can only increase natural dmg

also question do you wanna use if for pve or pvp? cuz if its for pvp you need more defense and heal too

8 rubees and 6 talents more:

http://www.allodswiki.ru/calc/#!5!331...…jpmyfr/YVVELOCS

as you see i ditched clout cuz its useless poisoned thorn is way stronger and nearly has no cd anyway also cuz you dont have any lightning skills anymore now (tearskill and half emeral dont count) you can only stack up natural dmg now ! so take everything for natural which is possible (but dont neglect crit dmg as its more important singletarget)

also took some useful pvp rubees like amor while barkshield instant roots and double roots while porting sadly you miss many rubees so i couldnt fit in willpower :/

no cuz poisoned thorn is stronger than clout by far and also you should only stack natural dmg and no elemental and then the gap will be even wider

rotation should be Beeswarm->poisonous thorn->emerald glow and then go over also it would be smart to put roots in beetween whenever rdy

like this you should have no time for other skills anyway cuz cd on bee,thorn and emerald is 6 sek and cuz crappy global cd you will barely have time to fit in other things and if you do and mess up (means not using the 3 upper skills on cd) you will lose dps

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no cuz poisoned thorn is stronger than clout by far and also you should only stack natural dmg and no elemental and then the gap will be even wider

rotation should be Beeswarm->poisonous thorn->emerald glow and then go over also it would be smart to put roots in beetween whenever rdy

like this you should have no time for other skills anyway cuz cd on bee,thorn and emerald is 6 sek and cuz crappy global cd you will barely have time to fit in other things and if you do and mess up (means not using the 3 upper skills on cd) you will lose dps

Even with the crappy global CD, i somehow can rotate 4 spells before my beeswarm goes out of CD with this build (seems to me like global CD is around 1.6 sec and not 2, in that case you can have 4 spells in rotation). Like the OP, i was using Clout in the beginning, but even with all enhancing rubies it was too weak. If we go for maximum natural damage, there are two options for replacement which are natural damage spells: Leaf fall and poison vine. Leaf fall is awesome, especially with poison sap rubies, but it burns your mana so fast that you can get no more than 5 rotations or so (which is especially bad cause I am using this build in PVE astral too, and with boss fights this is serious issue). Poison vine is more mana friendly, but unfortunately it has casting time, I lose about 10% DPS then cause of slower rotations, and you need to take that support ruby to be able to move while casting it in PVP (for PVE not such a big deal). Any suggestions about that 4th skill, blue?

well supp is pvp specc and in pvp you have to use at least 1 heal every rotation guess this was in the back of my head here

but if you rrly have the time to use a 4 skill i would probably take leaf fall i mean you have +100% passive more manaregg and the 1% per hit from pet which should help you to keep your mana up (but actually never had a long fight as supp in pve so not 100% sure there)

I agree with you. In the meantime, i did some testing with poison vine/clout/leaf fall as 4th spell in rotation. The DPS difference is too small to be important, maybe 5% top (as said, leaf fall is superb but you can keep rotation for like 30sec max, while poison vine is even lower than enhanced clout in DPS which was dissapointing for me), and in PVP is much safer to include one mist in rotation than to sacrifice all healing for that lousy 5% dps more. BTW today i lost all mana in one fight in WH with leaf fall in rotation, so yes, it really burns mana easily, which I thought was impossible with all those mana rege rubies