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And then you want players who do less dmg then full tank, on dps spec ?
Alot of players are casuals even with this builds, saw 2 mags who are +70y, and thay had 10-11 runes but did less dmg, then me on engi sup ...


About changes in next 9.1 path evry class get rework, 50% of evry class will change, and you will get some new skills/ mechanics

In general aspects are helpfull for new players to not get lost and do decent in the role they wanna play. Also aspects make the class balancing way easier, compare it to old allods where for example a paladin was in a full tank spec and still be top dps, or full heal summys with top dps.
I dont think aspects are bad or doesnt support creativity. For each class in every aspect there are so many ways to make a build. Look at paladin where you can play different tank variations, and in dps aspect you have many options to play the class (incin, chain, both). Or look at bard where you have different dps builds in dps aspect and so many variations in support aspect.
Allods in the current state has so much to offer for theory crafting with: stats, builds and playstyle.
In older patches i dont think i spent so much time for theory crafting, than with the aspect patches.

did i see "class"&"balance" words together somewhere in this thread? in allods? LOL

i think devs are thinking the same with us about this aspect thing in these days. if you read 9.0.1 patch notes, you can see that they are trying to give people the old school experience of gameplay(prob. 6.0).

i don't think they can remove aspects from the game but we can see softened aspect system soon. i hope that.

imho Aspects sux like hell

it makes speccing less difficult but i totaly miss the options i had to configure my chars before this so called classchange mess. just care a bit for community and revive pimpmybuildevent for noobs or casuals or present some builds from devcrew..

aspects were maybe ok for clerics but in general i loved to build hybrids, i always skiped minimum 10% of damage to get more skills and funny stuff

all the idea of classes seem to me was the nuances in variation of roles each class had not the restriction to press a class into one role

i have all classes and each patch i have the problem to skill each but befor class changes i began to love each class never minded to like scout or warrior or bard but then i loved bard, druid, scout, mage so much, it was so epic fun in bgs, teleport in carglass as marked one ... i had to leech all classes through bgs for bgrubie and greatness and god damn i had so much fun, all this is gone just with aspects

with aspects all the funny stuff vanished, no invis, no ghostworld, no telepull, no passiv buffs, reduced ccs/slows...

Zitat von »Xrade19«

And then you want players who do less dmg then full tank, on dps spec ?
Alot of players are casuals even with this builds, saw 2 mags who are +70y, and thay had 10-11 runes but did less dmg, then me on engi sup ..

this is bullshitlogic
when players even now sak why should it be an argument against aspectremove?!?

Zitat von »Sommer«

In general aspects are helpfull for new players to not get lost and do decent in the role they wanna play. Also aspects make the class balancing way easier, compare it to old allods where for example a paladin was in a full tank spec and still be top dps, or full heal summys with top dps.

for garanti palis and summis werent in full spec doin top dps before this patch. summis was godlike just coz peeps !never! used cleaning bloodshields or slow on lurkers

No aspect is life! Also whoever remembers the warrior skills when the max lvl was 40 when the dmg on "Headbutt" depended on the quality of the helmet. Or when chosing paired weapons or 2h was important. Those were the times. I personally think allods was way more interesting then but we will never get that back....

for rookies, there are the small yellow stars
everyone can make a most basic build with them
so we dont need aspects for the sake of making it easier for rookies, they have their help already

so i totally agree that removing aspects would be awesome
i miss the old buffs like seal of health, aura of ferocity and astral potency
(the only thing i do NOT miss is recasting seal every death! )

i also miss the freedom of creating very special skillsets which allowed things like a
"full dot necromancer"
"fullhealer with assaultmode"
"2handed palatank"
"ranged meleescout"
"melee + ranged hybrid warden healer"
"bardtank"
"full CC psi with burstdmg"
and all the other awesome creations me and many other players brought to live more or less successful
the only classes which still have "creatve" uses are warrior (2handed tank) and sorcerer (assault-suppression) but even these still have silly limitations

its obvious and totally OK if shieldslam does not work without a shield and everything, but it would enrich the game so much if skills in general would no longer be bound to aspects...

Also bring back mana back...