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Biromir

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I'm sorry I haven't been working on the other values

Far too many things to do this patch and I have my work on top of that.

As for the cost of runes - true that the value of crystal chips went up some odd 25-30% (from 4,5 to 6 crystals per old chip) but the middle of the slider now is pretty much half of what it used to be. The old middle of the slider now is the far right. If you combine 2 lvl 1 runes, it used to cost 10 old crystal chips in the middle, and instead of 120, it is now 55.

By the way has anyone noticed that to combine runes you use gold dust - which is gold broken down and crystal chips, which are crystals broken down. Under gpotato, crystal chips should've been mashed potatoes.

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first of all, ru never had any "cc bundles", so forget about them here too

on the other hand, 1 crystal in ru = 3 cc, here = 2

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Zitat von »Autopsyst«

on the other hand, 1 crystal in ru = 3 cc, here = 2

Yeah, but their crystal:gold ratio is aprox 1:200, while for us it's aprox 1:55

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or maybe not :>

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Zitat von »Biromir«

By the way has anyone noticed that to combine runes you use gold dust - which is gold broken down and crystal chips, which are crystals broken down. Under gpotato, crystal chips should've been mashed potatoes.

LOL

now where you say it....

also makes sense now that the cost of 2 CC is 1 crystal, so basically it gets halfed

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So if my runes were currently 777/666, and assuming I just kept my dial in the middle and I had about 20,000 CC, what level of runes could I upgrade to? Am I looking at 888/777 or less even?

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odnetnin

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IDK if this page is open to everyone but i updated it with the new rune values, Enjoy! The costs only go left for the more gold dust option cause thats how the original creator wrote it, i just cleaned it up a bit and added the new costs.

http://www.disturbedallods.com/runecalc

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laivindurNA

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i guess new playes will maybe avoid pvp, thats all
but even if you left out pvp at all game is still great

because allods is such a great game it can affort to make everything expensive but ppl will still play

Looks like F2P is not so wonderful at all...right?

@P2P u can pve and pvp many as u wish. :-) Just take a bit to get the gear...

:-)

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Zitat von »laivindurNA«

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i guess new playes will maybe avoid pvp, thats all
but even if you left out pvp at all game is still great

because allods is such a great game it can affort to make everything expensive but ppl will still play

Looks like F2P is not so wonderful at all...right?

@P2P u can pve and pvp many as u wish. :-) Just take a bit to get the gear...

:-)

on normal server you can also, lol
i have had great fun in pvp with runes 2-1-1 1-1-1 too

on payserver you must pay, on normal server its free
everyone will take what he likes better ^-^

i prefer using my real money for real life things and my virtual money (=gold) for virtual things

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laivindurNA

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Then I dont know why you see a problem in the current rune value... you should be like

"who cares!!!! It's a free to play"... "Runes are overrated", "2-1-1 1-1-1 is enough to have fun... It's not my current set of course, but do what I say but don't what I do"...

Dude... sometimes I think they pay to you some kind of fees for playing on that server hahaha

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Zitat von »laivindurNA«

Then I dont know why you see a problem in the current rune value... you should be like

"who cares!!!! It's a free to play"... "Runes are overrated", "2-1-1 1-1-1 is enough to have fun... It's not my current set of course, but do what I say but don't what I do"...

Dude... sometimes I think they pay to you some kind of fees for playing on that server hahaha

it got more expensive
higher prices are never good for the ones who play (captain obvious strikes again)

NO ONE of us players will like higher prices for anything

but its not a reason to stop playing allods or something... game still too good for that

i get my "fee" in form of the joy i earn from playing, without spending ANY money for it

thats another reason why i LOVE allods!

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laivindurNA

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Good luck holding the game incommings.

Bc there's no playbase to hold it for longer. Not at least in Europe... then all the money (that you wont confese that already invested in your "joy") will be gone.... Atleast, for me, will be just the same money I spent in beers or haveing dinner with my gf during last weekend:-). Not too painful at all.

And no. Im not seer :-p. I just saw so many "server merges", "servers going off" in this game. From NA to EU. (captain obvious strikes for once in whole post)

Good luck!!! (again)

Edit: Btw, every time they make harder the gold farming and TrashShop rise it's final prices... We can assure with no doubt that something is going wrong in the health of the business... They can release everything they wish (new mounts, new outfits, new scamboxes, w.e) with no review on CS items... but they do... something smell... and it doesn't smell good :-)

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Biromir

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While the itemshop needs some reevaluation I just have to make one observation clear - since 5.01 I've been making 10k gold a day without even trying. I haven't farmed gold really, I just played the game, using my daily bonus from battlegrounds, doing the KoE dailies, doing some Tka-Rik, since I don't have greatness and I am working on that. I haven't farmed and sold amalgam, I haven't "farmed" at all.

When it comes to gold, there are only 2 sides on the issue - the "gold now is easier to come by" and the "it's impossible to make gold now". There is no middle ground from my observation and from my experience in the past few days - gold is now easier to come by, despite the farming nerf.

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Indeed !
If you calculate a bit, per day you can generate:
- BG x2 bonus => 1 600gold
- Globinobal x2bonus => 1 800gold
- daily quest in the elemental allods => 1 800gold
- tkarik dayly + 10questsx2 => 1 800gold
Per week you have:
- allods stealing: 15-30K gold
- allods strat x8: 7 000gold

(1600+1800*3)+23500+7000 = 79 500gold per week (8K/day+-) if you only make daily, allods and steals
It's sufficiant to upgrade your stuff, and if you want more: do your works, farm tkarik

This update allow all players to make easy gold

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Zitat von »laivindurNA«

then all the money (that you wont confese that already invested in your "joy") will be gone....

i cant say for sure because i play without real $, but i am quite sure everyone who DOES donate real $ to allods is aware of the fact that these goods which he gets are virtual
there is nothing wrong is someone donates VOLUNTEERLY to this game

but you write like the game is forcing players to pay / like you could not play properly without $
and thats really not true

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Guys I don't have this problem what's going on?

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i guess new playes will maybe avoid pvp, thats all
but even if you left out pvp at all game is still great

because allods is such a great game it can affort to make everything expensive but ppl will still play

Exactly, because Allods is that good of a game, they can experiment however they want with the playerbase and know that most of them will still play.

I don't agree.... I have always loved Allods, and I still do as the game itself is amazing but the part I disagree with is the statement that ppl will keep playing no matter what the game makers/publisher decide to do. The player bases are low even after merging so many servers together and that tells a grim story. Players aren't all that stupid and they won't stay interested of the game that long when it would require a rather wealthy yearly income to have anything in the game. Runes are probably one of the greatest examples because you can't even properly participate in end-gaming without lv5+ runes - big guilds won't accept such players in their ranks and without strong guild it's very hard to enjoy the end game content. The most sad part is that Allods barely attracts any new players that would actually stay playing long enough to be part of end game content. I wish from all my heart more new players would fall in love to Allods but that won't ever happen, if the game becomes more and more expensive to play every year.

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Zitat von »Gwiniel«

Zitat von »Luka«

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i guess new playes will maybe avoid pvp, thats all
but even if you left out pvp at all game is still great

because allods is such a great game it can affort to make everything expensive but ppl will still play

Exactly, because Allods is that good of a game, they can experiment however they want with the playerbase and know that most of them will still play.

I don't agree.... I have always loved Allods, and I still do as the game itself is amazing but the part I disagree with is the statement that ppl will keep playing no matter what the game makers/publisher decide to do. The player bases are low even after merging so many servers together and that tells a grim story. Players aren't all that stupid and they won't stay interested of the game that long when it would require a rather wealthy yearly income to have anything in the game. Runes are probably one of the greatest examples because you can't even properly participate in end-gaming without lv5+ runes - big guilds won't accept such players in their ranks and without strong guild it's very hard to enjoy the end game content. The most sad part is that Allods barely attracts any new players that would actually stay playing long enough to be part of end game content. I wish from all my heart more new players would fall in love to Allods but that won't ever happen, if the game becomes more and more expensive to play every year.

if guild dont accept low-runce players thereis a good solution in my opinion:
form a own guild where you do accept them and get stronger, having a OWN guild is great!

ofc when they overdue it with prcies ppl will leave sometime, but i meant allods can overdue much more than other games

that new players wont stay is not a problem of allods, its a problem of the attitude of casualplayers which cant stand ANY throwbacks
these dont stay in ANY game for long since they cannot handle frustration at all

"every" game where the losers get separated directly from those who are willing to prosper is losing these players, while those which want to improve accumulate, get stronger and build up a proper playerbase