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Zitat von »Hclftw«

Zitat von »Xaraman«

Well,

IMHO, competitive-allods style would to be a member of one of the top 10 guilds on the dominion ladder

Ranked 22 in Dom.

In fairness, you did drop nearly $900 on a mount for you and your gf. That does stink of a casual vanity player

From my post replying to Biro, that you failed to quote:

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Note, there are always exceptions to this. But they are generally in a minority of players.

You are in a minority. Though you do come from the NA server, so that goes without saying :p

From A-O-P:

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only very few players invest huge amounts of time AND money

Do you have proof of this? Getting fed up with you making statements of "fact" about the game. Please be a bit more honest and use the conditional tense or preface a statement if you actually don't know the facts about something.

Zitat von »Biromir«

But you don't need to grind now, especially with the massive nerf to farming that made it simply an useless endeavor. I consider 5.01 a very good patch. Probably the first patch in Allods history that was entirely centered around making the game more fun.

Fun to some. I find it hard to log in everyday like I use to.

Zitat von »Xaraman«

In fairness, you did drop nearly $900 on a mount for you and your gf. That does stink of a casual vanity player

Just because someone chooses to drop that much on a mount or 2 don't mean they are casual. I have been in Disturbed with HCl and he is far from casual.

Zitat von »GuessItsAmber«

Zitat von »Xaraman«

In fairness, you did drop nearly $900 on a mount for you and your gf. That does stink of a casual vanity player

Just because someone chooses to drop that much on a mount or 2 don't mean they are casual. I have been in Disturbed with HCl and he is far from casual.

Amber,

I am taking the piss (as it's known in Ireland). I'd hope hcl is aware of this when dealing with my posts .

The winky smiley says it all

Cheers!

Zitat von »Xaraman«

From A-O-P:

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only very few players invest huge amounts of time AND money


Do you have proof of this? Getting fed up with you making statements of "fact" about the game. Please be a bit more honest and use the conditional tense or preface a statement if you actually don't know the facts about something.

i have had MANY conversations with a lot of players in games where you can pay to boost yourself but also can play totally free
this gives proper insight, especially if you know they have no reason to lie to you
in allods itself i also had a lot of these players which either spend a lot of time OR a lot of money
those which spent lots of time AND money were rare, although existing

i never stated it as a prooved fact that is 100% representative but from my experience it pretty muchs seems so


also, we should define, what is huge amounts of time and what is huge amounts of money?
in my opinion huge amounts of time is when someone plays 8H + or something, every day, but some ppl say playing 4h+ every day is huge, so we might have a misunderstanding here
same with money... for player A 100$ a month is little money while for player B even 20$ is too much for virtual goods



@the topic regarding casual players:

*i think*
the "typical" casualplayer in allods plays ~2 or 3 hours each day, sometimes more sometimes less and buys things from time to time with real $, like prophetcards or something and trys his luck with strongboxes, but has a limit (for example 15$ / month)
if there is an item he REALLY wants he maybe extends his limit however
depending on the personality and how dedicated he is to gambling this player will eventually invest more $ than usual in this case but realizes this only aftr he spent it ("oh, i just spent $ 300 on stongboxes and won nothing, damn")
after this special sale the amount of $ spent will go back to "normal"
this kind of player does not have the patience to level without exp-boost, but at least gives farming a try, however its boring and so he stops it after some time and goes back to $
depending on the guild this player is in he will have better or weaker gear, gearing happens most likely because of the guild that pushes him (not in a negative way)
this player plays one reincarnation but when he realizes how hard leveling is he stops leveling it a something like level 32

he does not care SO much about beeing "top" but rather searches for community fun in a MMO (socializing player); without his friends the game would not matter so much


so neither a big spender nor a hardcore-farmer can be a casualplayer in MY opinion
spending 900$ on 2 virtual goods is VERY far from casual, i think everybody agrees here


however to me allods does not seem to have so many casuals, most are very dedicated players
i like that

Zitat von »ALLODS-ONLINE-PLAYER«

spending 900$ on 2 virtual goods is VERY far from casual, i think everybody agrees here

I think it's irrelevant to being casual.

In my opinion:

Casual/Hardcore is ALL about time spent actively playing the game, whether he is spending zero/little/average/much/a lot of money and whether he is successful at the game or not is not relevant.
There can be good casual players as well as bad hardcore players.

Hardcore is different from casual and doesn't have to do only with time spent in the game. I play a lot. Hardcore players with lvl 655/555 runes do not spend 37k on Tep's Costume. I do.

I really think how much money you spend on the game has absolutely nothing to do with whether you're casual or hardcore lol.
I think it has to do with how much and how you play the game.

Zitat von »Hclftw«

I really think how much money you spend on the game has absolutely nothing to do with whether you're casual or hardcore lol.
I think it has to do with how much and how you play the game.

I agree. When I was playing, I would spend about $800 a month and about 4-5 hours a day but I dont think I was a hardcore player.

Zitat von »Hclftw«

I really think how much money you spend on the game has absolutely nothing to do with whether you're casual or hardcore lol.
I think it has to do with how much and how you play the game.

Exactly,

It's the goals you set yourself within the games structure that will define you as casual or hardcore or somewhere in between. I know guys who would be logged for 8-12 hours per day who I wouldn't class as hardcore and other guys who would play 4 hours, 4-5 days per week that would do far more in the game and would be hardcore. Though in general, the more you are towards the hardcore end of the spectrum will be proportional to the amount of Euro/Dollar you spend on the game.

Cheers!

We're all filthy casuals to someone. Damn dirty hardcores.

i am surprised how many ppl here do NOT think using high amounts of money for virtual goods drives someone away from beeing casual (but not making them hardcore)

however i dont see the opposite from casual as hardcore
i would rather say dedicated or something

for example i am a VERY dedicated allods player since i play many hours every day and try to collect das much knowledge (and items) as possible, but i am not hardcore because i dont care much about having highend or even good gear (which would be possible very easy!)

i know some ppl which use all astralkeys every week, purify ALL cursed drops (some ONLY with farmed gold) and do amalgamquest every day MULTIPLE times while hanging in BGs in the meantime; so max speed in gearing

these are those players which are in almost FULL oranges now (and glyphs on teal 2)
for me these are "hardcore" since they put all efforts in gearing which does not seem very fun, at least to me :/

and of course this highend gear gives them a LARGE advantage in PVP, however its only temporary since there is a gearcap