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So many good entry's are not even 3rd LEL ! This was randomly ?

As I said when PMB started.

"It's random who wins, it's like a lottery, just like anything in Allods. It doesn't matter what substance is in your guide, they pick which wins out of a hat."

Congrats to the lottery winners, but, next time...lets not use the lottery.

Well done to everyone who participated!

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So many good entry's are not even 3rd LEL ! This was randomly ?

true...

So I talked to a CM earlier today because I was genuinely curious about the Warden PMB results, and I learned that my guide, which I spent many hours working on, was not even considered in the judging process and was unjustly disqualified because for some reason they thought it was 100% images.

Here's the quote that was used:

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Presentation is key, so feel free to break up your build using informative images - though bear in mind that we will not be accepting entries that are composed of 100% images, nor will we be accepting videos or external links. Once the event ends, all builds will be gathered and judged by our Goblin panel!

I'd accept this ruling if my guide were actually 100% images, but my guide certainly is NOT 100% images; I made a point to make the first portion, which contains an introductory and table of contents portion of the guide, entirely in forum text just in case they ignored the thousands of words within the images of my guides and wanted to disqualify it for being 100% images. That alone makes the disqualification unjustified-- a point which should have been obvious from the start. You'd think it would be easy to determine whether or not a guide was 100% images, right?

Here's my guide for those who are curious:
http://en.allods.com/forum/index.php?pag…57260#post57260
Note that the first portion, which contains forum text, was last edited on April 3rd.

Even if I were to give those behind this contest the benefit of the doubt and allow them to ignore the thousands of words included within the images of my guide, I still can not see how they determined that my guide was 100% images because the entire first portion of the guide has no images and is entirely forum text. Even if I just included one word as forum text in an image-based guide, it would no longer be 100% images and would be considered to be within the set rules and guidelines.

At first I was just somewhat salty yet curious about the results. Now I'm actually pretty angry after learning that I was unjustly disqualified and not even considered for any rewards because of someone else's mistake. I spent many hours working on this guide to ensure that it was both presentable, informational, and worthy of being one of if not the top warden guide. Knowing that it was not even considered in the judging process due to a mistake made by the CM's is infuriating. Heck, I won't even get the prize for participating since they disqualified it.

I hope someone does something to right their wrongs here...

Lel they dont even know what they looking for :O They are not sure is it better to explain every possible spell,rotations, and all about 1 class, or its enough to post image of builds, and write few words
Are they looking for shiny entry's with amazing images ?
Are they even reading everything
Is there someone who know everything about every class ?
Just take a look on all those builds, if u know anything about certain class u will notice that someone who has no idea about classes was in team when they choose winners...
I am not master of all classes, but i have decent knowledge about some other classes, and some 1-3rd place are completly BS builds. And now some new player should follow that guide, only cuz its shiny and amazing PS work .. LEL

I wants my wingz
kthxbye

Every time I do better pmb entry and get into lower position .
Btw these results are bullshit. I used to be a judge for one pimp my build edition and if someone used some kind of voting system than it was completely different than good old one.

Most of the PMBs people assumed would win purely looked good, had their contents table and fancy images but what information did they actually give? They were walls of text with just a copy/paste of the ingame spells tooltip, this gives no information that can't be obtained by just reading the spells yourself. The guides that won offered alternative information that isn't obvious on tooltips and requires some form of testing to find yourself. The point is to teach players your way of playing (your class) and share you're build, explaining what you use and WHY. NOT what every spell every stat every ruby does with a copy paste of the tooltip.

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Most of the PMBs people assumed would win purely looked good, had their contents table and fancy images but what information did they actually give? They were walls of text with just a copy/paste of the ingame spells tooltip, this gives no information that can't be obtained by just reading the spells yourself. The guides that won offered alternative information that isn't obvious on tooltips and requires some form of testing to find yourself. The point is to teach players your way of playing (your class) and share you're build, explaining what you use and WHY. NOT what every spell every stat every ruby does with a copy paste of the tooltip.

Let me tell u something, even if everything is copy paste its completly fine for me WHY? Cuz when i changing class and looking for builds and explanations, instead of opening calculator and reading everything there (there is no % for every type of rubie) and even if there is a explanation, how the hell i can know is that for pvp or pve or something else how i can know for what is that good ? U gonna tell me this is good for u take it ? How i can know what is % for critical ? From talent calculator ? And before i change class i always looking for some good explanations, even before i change class. So for newbies is even harder... And in my opinion all pmb's with copy paste, including numbers and all, tips and explanation for what those talents/rubies are good, is much better then without any explanation (take a pic of your build and post - read on talent calc. ) LEL

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And yes i forgot, even in game, explanation for some rubies are wrong !

It was stated in the German Forums, that the wont accept Images or PDF Files with Word in it. I gutes the Forgot to Mention it here.

I agree with you Erwyn. A lot of the guides that I looked at looked very nice but majority of the content seemed like you could just read the talents/rubies and figure it out for yourself. I actually enjoyed the guides that had explained their rotations and play style.

Gratz to all the winners! Great guides everyone

Congratulations to all the participants! Everyone did a fantastic job on their guides and will soon be able to love n' hug n' squeeze their cute adorable little jerboas!

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I'd accept this ruling if my guide were actually 100% images, but my guide certainly is NOT 100% images.

I think the issue with the images, which were absolutely stunning, is that the most important part of your entry (and the whole purpose for the contest), the build and rotation itself, was laid out in 100% images. From my understanding, the reason this is such a problem is that the guides need to be translated to ensure that the information provided is accurate. If the thread contains all images, it becomes a very tedious task in terms of translating. It can be done, but it would be a very time consuming operation. That being said, it is ridiculous that they disqualified your guide as an entry, because you, very obviously, put a ton of work into it!

As far as copying and pasting from the game tooltips goes, that just defeats the purpose of the whole contest. If you are writing a guide with the intention of instructing others on how to play your class from your experience, you should be able to define the talents and rubies in your own words. Granted, some descriptions are so limited that word for word is all you can do to get the point across, but you should not be copying the description of every skill, as readers can get that information on their own in the game.

agree with erwyn there it just though most pmbs were completly useless cuz ppl can actually just read the tooltips themself and many just did a trollbuild in there cuz i just cant imagin ppl using such a shitty build themselves i mean i just got a look at the person who got 1 place in wardens...and i simply dont think he will do any decent dps... but yeah whatever