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Quoted from "RedCatCZ"

@Teegin: Cool, there is a bloodlust in the game. What a surprice. Everybody can use it. Didnt really knew it.

You wanted to know how a mh could stay at 100% after a 1v1. You say that gear is lower and cs is about the same yet you never once said anything about stats. Bloodlust is a very important factor into your rage you have against healers.

I have yet to go to a bg because I am too busy trying to keep caught up with gearing since I am preparing to make a 500+ mile move next month. I have also yet to do a raid since the time my guild does them doesn't fit into my schedule. Therefore I have told you my experiences in astral.

So stop being a smart bum and try to take what these people are saying to you seriously. The majority of the people that you are attacking that are trying to help you are from the top guilds so they do know what they are talking about.

You say that healing characters in non-healing specs are still unkillable 1v1. I disagree because I have seen them be killed 1v1 myself, watching players of equal skill and gear. Of course some fights went differently than others, sometimes the healing class won, but it all boiled down to a matter of being outplayed one way or the other. I can understand your belief that some healing abilities in non-heal aspects are overly strong, and even agree to a certain extent. But radically revising their entire set of options is total overkill.

Also, as much as you believe this game is not rock-paper-scissors, that is not actually true. There ARE anti-classes to a particular class. This is why I kept bringing up Warrior and defense aspect, it happens to be a particular subclass. The entire basis of the Defense Warrior is being able to outlast an opponent that is focused solely on killing in 1v1 and applying pressure to an enemy team in group fights. Your damage is lower, but Assault Aspects simply cannot kill you fast enough and in group fights it's pointless to focus you when you're such an enormous hitpoint sponge. The tradeoff is that if someone can mitigate your lower damage, you're boned. In turn, the weakness of THOSE classes is that if someone can overwhelm their lower healing with heavy burst damage, unless they can interrupt that burst with CC then THEY are boned.

You may say that this is not how things should be, but it is the current state of the game, now moreso than ever. The only two classes that do not follow these rules are the Summoner and Paladin. The former gets changed in 7.1 so it is limited the same as everyone else, and the latter has ALWAYS been a problem class for Allods to balance.

Quoted from "Gibe"

Quoted from "RedCatCZ"

Go on

Disobedient ruby is essential. 20% damage to blows blows because treacherous and lunge are 90% of your damage. Other than that it looks decent. Slaughter helps a lot with killing a healer, but it is useless if you want that hot 1v1 action. Personally I don't use antiheal. The bleed damage isn't worth wasting gcd on. I would rather use some stun or treache/lunge.

Quoted from "RedCatCZ"

@Teegin: the only thing they basicaly said is: stop crying, git good, deal with it. Nothing really helpful, insults only. I said many many times that assault warrior has no real chance againts pvp healer, even less chance than warr with deff aspect.

Looks to me like someone was trying to help you. Just because you may not have agreed with what he said to you doesn't mean they weren't trying to help you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIZIGuzO…youtu.be#t6m50s

assault warrior noob in this video :/ nearly oneshotting summys and so on but meh probably just a cheater or something (and if you say now but he has runes and 80k gs yes he has... but his enemys too so it doesnt matter )

but yeah sry offtopic again iam against taking abilitys from classes at all (maybe exept this op cd increase of summys,mages,warr and clerics grr i hate this one)

Quoted from "RedCatCZ"

@Teegin: I actually appreciate his effort. Ofc there are a few things that I dissagree with, but that would be bit more detailed OT discussion about warr builds, becouse there needs to be more common understanding about our priorities.

You shared your suggestions, people shared their opinions and suggestions, So maybe now it is time that you post in the warrior section to see if people that play warriors as of now can help give you idea's on what you might be able to do.

Quoted from "RedCatCZ"

@Bluescarlet: Thx for sharing a vid about how dps warrior supports his team with his high damage, and also team supports him with heals. He wouldnt stand a chance in 1v1 when his opponent would actually focus on him.
I fully understand the reasons why do some players uses this aspect, this is also just one of the ways how to help your team to shut down a full-healer.

I thought you said assault aspect was completely useless? You keep moving the goalposts further and further out. At first I thought maybe you had a point, then you continued to demand further and further, changing the circumstances of your issue, so I decided to do my own analysis on you based on your post history. Two YEARS now you have complained about anyone being able to heal against your tank damage in PvP. At some point, you're going to have to learn to either adapt to a new style of play for fighting these classes, or accept that you aren't good at killing people who heal.

You have such a long and storied history of ignoring discussion or criticism, I don't even think I can give you advice at this point.

AHA ! there we go you dont WANT to play a dps class ! (even tho its way stronger and any gppd dps warr will slaughter a tank warr... but whatever) just cuz you dont want to play another way doesnt make this way useless or something in the end it seems to me you simply wanna be op (which would happen if other classes would lack selfheal cuz as a tank you have an unfair advantage of over 100% more life lol )
and to no heals a warr...bloodlust... when you hit for over 1 mio and have a bit of bloodlust its a decent heal...this may not be this strong in a teamfight cuz several ppl will still butcher you...BUT its very strong in a 1 vs 1 situation

everyone can use bloodlust yeah but it only brings you something if you do high dps which is not possible as a tank

and sry ok its 200% (mhh normal life 2,6 mio as a tank around 6 mio... mep)

btw iam talking with a warr atm and he says you skipped in your build many defensive skills and damage reduce (in this strange barrier you got) and you miss the most important fact what do you gain from staying alive whole fight if you dont have any use when you kill 2 ppl and die you did your job already so go assault for the win (maybe exept traningscamp and capture the flag there a tank would be awesome)

80k gs pally should be pretty strong but again not every player used the max of his class

but here you should see a important point cleric and summy both have a pretty op 1 vs 1 ability (warr and mage got it too) and thats the cooldown increase shit this completly robs his enemy of any abilit to proper dps or heal so if it was a supp summy or cleric then the strong thing wasnt the healing but rather the damn buff -.- (btw iam pretty sure pally has rrly high self healing too at least i see this in hps often)