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Wednesday, April 9th 2014, 11:11pm

okay ty i think understood it goodly now
but i think since i cant use the fh to grind i will keep both builds and run the firstly dps one till im 60 with better runes and run the fh when get greatness
ty all for your help
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Thursday, April 10th 2014, 2:00am

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You can grind with a FH build..but obvisously is far slower than a dps one.
I grinded with a dot/off healer build with lurker and I found it very comfortable, up to 10~ mobs per time, fast enough.
The only malus is about the timetable: if you make mistakes taking the rhythm you easily die because of the damage dealt by the many mobs.
But Rise from the Dead helps a lot :P

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Thursday, April 10th 2014, 10:47am

alright tried both bulds but dra. dps build with cad. semmed be easiest and makes me topping dps meter with higher runes ppl
so i will get it and will wait for greatness to get the fh i want
ty all
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Thursday, April 10th 2014, 12:10pm

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even though I purely HATE it.

Kakias why so much lie. We both know you love to be FH..
I don't like you, you don't like me
Its not likely that we'll ever be friends
Why pretend?

They say, "Evil prevails when good men fail to act." What they ought to say is, "Evil prevails."

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Thursday, April 10th 2014, 10:32pm

well taking opportunity ;)

can u tell me if this is fine for FH summy ?

http://pts.allodswiki.ru/calc/#!4!121..3…choilnd/GEOMQWG


PS: looking for Dracias opinion especially

thx

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Friday, April 11th 2014, 12:19am

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well taking opportunity ;)

can u tell me if this is fine for FH summy ?

http://pts.allodswiki.ru/calc/#!4!121..3…choilnd/GEOMQWG


PS: looking for Dracias opinion especially

thx

I am not Draci, but i can tell you its nonsense - why taking rubies that reduces cd on vamp when you are not gonna use it?
take instead rubies that increase crit on blood shot for example.

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Friday, April 11th 2014, 12:27am

well taking opportunity ;)

can u tell me if this is fine for FH summy ?

http://pts.allodswiki.ru/calc/#!4!121..3…choilnd/GEOMQWG


PS: looking for Dracias opinion especially

thx

I am not Draci, but i can tell you its nonsense - why taking rubies that reduces cd on vamp when you are not gonna use it?
take instead rubies that increase crit on blood shot for example.
well sry .. im just lvling summy im not expirienced yet

i thought that i will be using vamp for blood regen thats why those rubies

and yes my fault forgot those crit rubies ...

thx anyway

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Friday, April 11th 2014, 12:31am

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get master summoner and endless blood, u must have master summoner in a fh build, also summonning mastery cuz if lurker dies ur pretty much dead
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Friday, April 11th 2014, 1:30am

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There are a lot of rubies and talents in this build o_O
Is this summoner a reinc?
Just to know if that talent points/rubies pool is "real" or if it's a mistake :D

BTW I agree with the Others about Reanimator rubies and Imo also Blood Tap is quite useless endgame (instead I find it useful during leveling. Not strictly essential if you have a lack of rubies).

But..do you want a FH build to level up it?
Because imo it's a sort of suicide (same thing for the Healer) :wacko: It should be a dps/off healer

I consider Urgent Protection above r1 to be more pvp and not so useful on pve, since it prevent the dispel of Aegis. But maybe I'm wrong.
One more thing I consider really important at least r1 of Summoning Mastery..because in this way you can re-summon your lurker if it dies (r1 allows you to do this 1 time every 30m, r2 every 2m, r3 every 50s. So r3 is a waste imo).

There also Desecration, decreasing the mana cost of 2 important heals: Plague of Mending (aoe party heal) and Reanimation (istant heal to spam)

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Friday, April 11th 2014, 10:52am

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There are a lot of rubies and talents in this build o_O
Is this summoner a reinc?
Just to know if that talent points/rubies pool is "real" or if it's a mistake :D

BTW I agree with the Others about Reanimator rubies and Imo also Blood Tap is quite useless endgame (instead I find it useful during leveling. Not strictly essential if you have a lack of rubies).

But..do you want a FH build to level up it?
Because imo it's a sort of suicide (same thing for the Healer) :wacko: It should be a dps/off healer

I consider Urgent Protection above r1 to be more pvp and not so useful on pve, since it prevent the dispel of Aegis. But maybe I'm wrong.
One more thing I consider really important at least r1 of Summoning Mastery..because in this way you can re-summon your lurker if it dies (r1 allows you to do this 1 time every 30m, r2 every 2m, r3 every 50s. So r3 is a waste imo).

There also Desecration, decreasing the mana cost of 2 important heals: Plague of Mending (aoe party heal) and Reanimation (istant heal to spam)
r3 is each 30 sec
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Friday, April 11th 2014, 2:25pm

alright i have done some changes to darci first dps build
can any one please reveiw and tell me if good

http://tinyurl.com/mqqplkg

thanks
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Friday, April 11th 2014, 3:15pm

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alright i have done some changes to darci first dps build
can any one please reveiw and tell me if good

http://tinyurl.com/mqqplkg

thanks
its decent but I dont like decomposition r2 there..its your n1 skill on dps meter most of the time and u missed +5% acid dmg ruby for some reason, anyways why did you change this stuff if I may ask ? lack of 1 talent+ruby ?
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Friday, April 11th 2014, 4:12pm

the +5% acid damage i didnt skip it at all just proplem in entreing cuz i was in hurry sorry
and about decomp i tried r3 and didnt find much to waste 6 talents which i can use on my survial
i took plague since it sometimes save the whole party
i raised dark pact to start attacking with howl (i love it in pve solo with mobs)
and i took r2 dark renewal for soloing too
and about rise of dead i love its 5min cd since it really helps
so i think not much change
and if you maynot ask why would i post it XD :D
thanks
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This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "youssef2100" (Apr 11th 2014, 5:06pm)


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Friday, April 11th 2014, 5:58pm

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I try to explain Runic Curse better:

a player with defensive runes lv8 hits another player with defensive runes lv6.
The difference between 8 and 6 creates the runic curse.
So..if you try to heal the player with lv 6 defensive runes, part of your heals will be reflected.
The higher this difference is, the less you can heal your target.
first - defensive runes do NOT affect runic curse in ANY way.
second - runic curse depends only on the runes of the attacker.
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Friday, April 11th 2014, 6:18pm

please fast reply since my free changes will end after 2 days
Jenowin (60 demonoligst f2p server)
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This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "youssef2100" (Apr 11th 2014, 8:13pm)


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Friday, April 11th 2014, 9:00pm

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remove PoM from build. since u will have AAP switched on it is useless, plus blood will be wasted on hod. anyways this is not full dps build.

there is a simple rule - if you want to be good dps, you should trust your party, and specialize only in dps. for summoner it means - no heal, no survival, pure glass-but-not-so-cannon.
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Friday, April 11th 2014, 9:18pm

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remove PoM from build. since u will have AAP switched on it is useless, plus blood will be wasted on hod. anyways this is not full dps build.

there is a simple rule - if you want to be good dps, you should trust your party, and specialize only in dps. for summoner it means - no heal, no survival, pure glass-but-not-so-cannon.
exactly what afta said..you cant really make hybrid build of offheal/dps unless you do pvp build but that one is wasted in pve and yeah pure glass but not so cannon sounds about right :D summo got nice single target dps while cds on after that..lets say decent but in aoe we are still good though the fight has to be longer to let VI and dots do the job
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Friday, April 11th 2014, 9:29pm

alright thanks for your opinnious and gladly was right so redisgned it
http://eu.allodswiki.ru/calc/#!4!322...3…l/MKGRI!qemfb/A
note i got another ruby from 2nd page so add r3 summon mastery
made immo. r1 since its really good dps
hope fixed error
THANKS
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Friday, April 11th 2014, 9:43pm

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alright thanks for your opinnious and gladly was right so redisgned it
http://eu.allodswiki.ru/calc/#!4!322...3…l/MKGRI!qemfb/A
note i got another ruby from 2nd page so add r3 summon mastery
made immo. r1 since its really good dps
hope fixed error
THANKS
looks ok but once again i would definetly never take only r2 decomposition in a dps build no matter what. Life tap r2 is ok if you want a bit more defensive talents cause its not used that often to make huge difference in dps. You could easily get 6 talents by taking only r1 Dark renewal r1 Dark pact which you can still use precombat for blood and 100% determination bar ( if for some reason u got stats in there like from gear) and r1 Wandering fever is ok too cause dmg from Accelerated metabolism rubies doesent depend on WF rank just the hit after 1,5 min changes and that doesent make any huge difference after all.
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Friday, April 11th 2014, 10:01pm

alrighty then considering pre life tap
and that WF dont increase rubies damage
changed again to this
http://eu.allodswiki.ru/calc/#!4!332...2…l/MKGRI!qemfb/A
THANKSS
Jenowin (60 demonoligst f2p server)
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