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Saturday, April 5th 2014, 8:19am

many of our skills received increased cooldowns, increased cast times, decreased durations, increased mana cost, decreased damage, "displacement of effects", etc

the suggestions you offered me in your post mostly had information regarding the previous patch, which is no longer viable in this one. re-read the talents and rubies you have, a good amount have changed and no information was given to us about it(for some reason?).

as for this supposed "damage"(i presume you mean per hit, and not dps), i don't really see these numbers as overly impressive. my character is exceptionally low-end(i haven't been competitive since 45 gear), with only half a set of epic glyphs, level 6 runes, and no pat5. i, however, can easily "make over 100k damage", and surpass 8k vigor effortlessly in nothing but green armor. you may want to rethink your gear setup.

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Saturday, April 5th 2014, 9:05am

do you even read the skills you have?


hmm I think first you should read and learn your skills...ur post its almost wrong, but this make me most fun:

elemental surge does less damage than frostbolt, and only aoes things under the beam


Mate u even try this spell??? How Sathom said its rly useful + its MOST powerful skill ever.

many of our skills received increased cooldowns, increased cast times, decreased durations

plis say which skill becouse i don't see any...
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Bu mesaj 1 defa düzenlendi, son düzenlemeyi yapan "Stearynowy" (Apr 5th 2014, 9:13am)


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Saturday, April 5th 2014, 9:37am

it use to be the best skill ever, have you used it this patch? it does significantly less damage than it did before.

to name a few we've discovered in-game:

  1. icy grave gained a 1 second cast time(previously, r3 reduced its cast time 2s, this is no longer the case)
  2. the effect of icy avalanche - which in addition to its current effects, also reduced the cooldown of icy meteor by 15% per rank - was moved to the ruby sleet
  3. prismatic lightning gained a .5 or 1s cast time(can't remember if it was 2 or 2.5, like i said, i haven't played in awhile)
  4. the duration of magic tactics, at least with my blue tears, was decreased by 7 seconds
  5. elemental surge's damage-per-pulse has seemingly been cut 9000%
  6. (unconfirmed)dynamo seems to reduce the amount of hits from 5 to 4, or so claims some of the in-game mages(haven't personally tested)
  7. icy meteor can no longer hit anything that charges(the skill breaks and instantly disappears.. or something, glitch probably)
  8. the regeneration effect of snow dam is about 25% less potent, despite mana being ever-so-slightly higher this patch
  9. elemental shield no longer stops holy attacks
  10. fire trap does not explode
  11. (unconfirmed)lethal shock doesn't work
  12. thunderbolt gained .5s cast time
  13. eruption doesn't seem to work
  14. stoic soul doesn't seem to work
  15. despite being 100% at r3, hailstorm does not always send a second icy meteor
  16. all damage-over-time effects have received significantly damage reduction

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Saturday, April 5th 2014, 1:51pm

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Thunderbolt is better than surge

this made my heart faint .....

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Tuesday, April 8th 2014, 10:33pm

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We use Icy Grave on just PvE in my server. I think 6 skill points is too much for 4-5 sc stun. And its cast time long. Maybe, Rank 2 is ideal. Rank 3 is unneeded
lol rank 2 is even longer cast :)) as Dracias said a pvp mage should have R3 On icy :)) its a 13 second stun not 3-4 secs

here is a pvp build http://eu.allodswiki.ru/calc/#!2!311.3..…IPCUPB!a/KPCBUW

try this build you will likeit only for pvp for pve you will do nothing !

Respect Dracias , Respect Penance !

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Wednesday, April 9th 2014, 1:36am

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I have like 8k vigor and 74% proficiency


hightly doubt that you have 8k vigor if you're using 52s, maybe 6.something
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Wednesday, April 9th 2014, 7:15am

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We use Icy Grave on just PvE in my server. I think 6 skill points is too much for 4-5 sc stun. And its cast time long. Maybe, Rank 2 is ideal. Rank 3 is unneeded
lol rank 2 is even longer cast :)) as Dracias said a pvp mage should have R3 On icy :)) its a 13 second stun not 3-4 secs

here is a pvp build http://eu.allodswiki.ru/calc/#!2!311.3..…IPCUPB!a/KPCBUW

try this build you will likeit only for pvp for pve you will do nothing !

Respect Dracias , Respect Penance !


Put some rubies in lightning Joilt - its for 'free now' and also some talents in shocking grasp, after all this is your fatality skill.
Also you don't need r2 on Magic tactics? Decreased cd on skill that allows you to run in a 'mobile caster' build? But thats a disputable thing.
And seal for pvp? rly?
what about Meteor/Flaming Meteor? And how many times do you want to put Firewall during a combat since after the 1st one, many of those trapped in the firewall get a immunity buff?

ps. You wrote respect to Pena & Draci but it seems you don't watch the movies they posting and learn from them how to pvp.


I have like 8k vigor and 74% proficiency


hightly doubt that you have 8k vigor if you're using 52s, maybe 6.something


Mostly I got rid of or 52s. Im using epic things crafted, only few52 and as many as I was able to do till now - 60lvld astral ones. And yes its 8k something.
The 52s are for Kamikaze mode only (not my expression, but it describes the situation good) - you do huge dmg, but you are like paper bcz all stats are in proficiency.

Bu mesaj 2 defa düzenlendi, son düzenlemeyi yapan "SΛΤΗΩ" (Apr 9th 2014, 8:40am)


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Wednesday, April 9th 2014, 5:12pm

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Quoted from "burtoyul"






Quoted from "Spirit"



We use Icy Grave on just PvE in my server. I think 6 skill points is too much for 4-5 sc stun. And its cast time long. Maybe, Rank 2 is ideal. Rank 3 is unneeded
lol rank 2 is even longer cast ) as Dracias said a pvp mage should have R3 On icy ) its a 13 second stun not 3-4 secs
here is a pvp build try this build you will likeit only for pvp for pve you will do nothing !
Respect Dracias , Respect Penance !
Put some rubies in lightning Joilt - its for 'free now' and also some talents in shocking grasp, after all this is your fatality skill.
Also you don't need r2 on Magic tactics? Decreased cd on skill that allows you to run in a 'mobile caster' build? But thats a disputable thing.
And seal for pvp? rly?
what about Meteor/Flaming Meteor? And how many times do you want to put Firewall during a combat since after the 1st one, many of those trapped in the firewall get a immunity buff?
ps. You wrote respect to Pena & Draci but it seems you don't watch the movies they posting and learn from them how to pvp.
Quoted from "reeah19"






Quoted from "SΛΤΗΩ"



I have like 8k vigor and 74% proficiency
hightly doubt that you have 8k vigor if you're using 52s, maybe 6.something
Mostly I got rid of or 52s. Im using epic things crafted, only few52 and as many as I was able to do till now - 60lvld astral ones. And yes its 8k something.
The 52s are for Kamikaze mode only (not my expression, but it describes the situation good) - you do huge dmg, but you are like paper bcz all stats are in proficiency.
We use Icy Grave on just PvE in my server. I think 6 skill points is too much for 4-5 sc stun. And its cast time long. Maybe, Rank 2 is ideal. Rank 3 is unneeded
lol rank 2 is even longer cast :)) as Dracias said a pvp mage should have R3 On icy :)) its a 13 second stun not 3-4 secs

here is a pvp build http://eu.allodswiki.ru/calc/#!2!311.3..2.3.2..2.33.2.3.2.3.....2.2.2!qoumeah/CUJOGB!mxctlb/IPCUPB!a/KPCBUW

try this build you will likeit only for pvp for pve you will do nothing !

Respect Dracias , Respect Penance !


Put some rubies in lightning Joilt - its for 'free now' and also some talents in shocking grasp, after all this is your fatality skill.
Also you don't need r2 on Magic tactics? Decreased cd on skill that allows you to run in a 'mobile caster' build? But thats a disputable thing.
And seal for pvp? rly?
what about Meteor/Flaming Meteor? And how many times do you want to put Firewall during a combat since after the 1st one, many of those trapped in the firewall get a immunity buff?

ps. You wrote respect to Pena & Draci but it seems you don't watch the movies they posting and learn from them how to pvp.


I have like 8k vigor and 74% proficiency


hightly doubt that you have 8k vigor if you're using 52s, maybe 6.something


Mostly I got rid of or 52s. Im using epic things crafted, only few52 and as many as I was able to do till now - 60lvld astral ones. And yes its 8k something.
The 52s are for Kamikaze mode only (not my expression, but it describes the situation good) - you do huge dmg, but you are like paper bcz all stats are in proficiency.
1 . The respect dosnt mean i have to run by their side to copy the items like u and others do ...

2 . What i posted its a pvp build .. not a 1 vs 1 build when you are in bgs you will need that fire wall faster than u think ... oh and btw Imunnity :)) lawl nice joke that is whi you have Dispel !!!!! You can avalanche someone 3 times if u use dispell :))

3 . Penance has about 5 build .. i bet you dint know that .. !

4 . if you watch closely penance pvp movies u will see he is not using Flaming Meteor at all cuz he dont haveit !

5 . Penance is using Flaming Meteor skill only in Build for Dominions !!

6 . You watch and Learn !! :thumbsup:

7 . Respect dosnt mean that i have to learn or study someone .. it means i respect them for ho thei are ! Rspct !

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Wednesday, April 9th 2014, 5:16pm

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No comment. Was bored after scrolling down.

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Thursday, April 10th 2014, 8:20am

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Thursday, April 10th 2014, 10:13am

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Quoted from "burtoyul"






Quoted from "Spirit"



We use Icy Grave on just PvE in my server. I think 6 skill points is too much for 4-5 sc stun. And its cast time long. Maybe, Rank 2 is ideal. Rank 3 is unneeded
lol rank 2 is even longer cast ) as Dracias said a pvp mage should have R3 On icy ) its a 13 second stun not 3-4 secs
here is a pvp build try this build you will likeit only for pvp for pve you will do nothing !
Respect Dracias , Respect Penance !
Put some rubies in lightning Joilt - its for 'free now' and also some talents in shocking grasp, after all this is your fatality skill.
Also you don't need r2 on Magic tactics? Decreased cd on skill that allows you to run in a 'mobile caster' build? But thats a disputable thing.
And seal for pvp? rly?
what about Meteor/Flaming Meteor? And how many times do you want to put Firewall during a combat since after the 1st one, many of those trapped in the firewall get a immunity buff?
ps. You wrote respect to Pena & Draci but it seems you don't watch the movies they posting and learn from them how to pvp.
Quoted from "reeah19"






Quoted from "SΛΤΗΩ"



I have like 8k vigor and 74% proficiency
hightly doubt that you have 8k vigor if you're using 52s, maybe 6.something
Mostly I got rid of or 52s. Im using epic things crafted, only few52 and as many as I was able to do till now - 60lvld astral ones. And yes its 8k something.
The 52s are for Kamikaze mode only (not my expression, but it describes the situation good) - you do huge dmg, but you are like paper bcz all stats are in proficiency.
We use Icy Grave on just PvE in my server. I think 6 skill points is too much for 4-5 sc stun. And its cast time long. Maybe, Rank 2 is ideal. Rank 3 is unneeded
lol rank 2 is even longer cast :)) as Dracias said a pvp mage should have R3 On icy :)) its a 13 second stun not 3-4 secs

here is a pvp build http://eu.allodswiki.ru/calc/#!2!311.3..2.3.2..2.33.2.3.2.3.....2.2.2!qoumeah/CUJOGB!mxctlb/IPCUPB!a/KPCBUW

try this build you will likeit only for pvp for pve you will do nothing !

Respect Dracias , Respect Penance !


Put some rubies in lightning Joilt - its for 'free now' and also some talents in shocking grasp, after all this is your fatality skill.
Also you don't need r2 on Magic tactics? Decreased cd on skill that allows you to run in a 'mobile caster' build? But thats a disputable thing.
And seal for pvp? rly?
what about Meteor/Flaming Meteor? And how many times do you want to put Firewall during a combat since after the 1st one, many of those trapped in the firewall get a immunity buff?

ps. You wrote respect to Pena & Draci but it seems you don't watch the movies they posting and learn from them how to pvp.


I have like 8k vigor and 74% proficiency


hightly doubt that you have 8k vigor if you're using 52s, maybe 6.something


Mostly I got rid of or 52s. Im using epic things crafted, only few52 and as many as I was able to do till now - 60lvld astral ones. And yes its 8k something.
The 52s are for Kamikaze mode only (not my expression, but it describes the situation good) - you do huge dmg, but you are like paper bcz all stats are in proficiency.
1 . The respect dosnt mean i have to run by their side to copy the items like u and others do ...

2 . What i posted its a pvp build .. not a 1 vs 1 build when you are in bgs you will need that fire wall faster than u think ... oh and btw Imunnity :)) lawl nice joke that is whi you have Dispel !!!!! You can avalanche someone 3 times if u use dispell :))

3 . Penance has about 5 build .. i bet you dint know that .. !

4 . if you watch closely penance pvp movies u will see he is not using Flaming Meteor at all cuz he dont haveit !

5 . Penance is using Flaming Meteor skill only in Build for Dominions !!

6 . You watch and Learn !! :thumbsup:

7 . Respect dosnt mean that i have to learn or study someone .. it means i respect them for ho thei are ! Rspct !
Pena not using meteor ? guess I didnt play long enough with him to recognize his precasted flaming meteor before bg starts then)...pena might be using 5 builds but Im sure that he takes the same important stuff in all of them since I do the same in my 10 builds. Theres always time to learn stuff either from videos/experience and admit that you did something wrong no1 is gonna blame u for that..but seems u dont care gl Im done here
Back and rolling on 6.0!



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Thursday, April 10th 2014, 10:28am

allods should change all cast time and cooldown of every spells for the mages. because the firebolt can have 0.6 seconds castime and in game looks like 2 seconds to the spell be ready(red ball in the wand). i mean the castime is not doing his job it should load faster (it is less than 1 second, COME ON fix it) :) max castime and cooldown should be 1 second if it is not fast.

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Thursday, April 10th 2014, 10:42am

people, are you looking for a mage build? if you do you should see this build ice + lighting:

http://eu.allodswiki.ru/calc/#!2!333..3.…ougmoib/GYCMEOE

here is everything a mage need for pve and pvp. :)

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Thursday, April 10th 2014, 10:44am

i forgot to say that i dont know the max talents and ruby points which a mage level 60 can have :)

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Thursday, April 10th 2014, 12:53pm

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people, are you looking for a mage build? if you do you should see this build ice + lighting:

http://eu.allodswiki.ru/calc/#!2!333..3.…ougmoib/GYCMEOE

here is everything a mage need for pve and pvp. :)



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Friday, April 11th 2014, 12:51am

Here is a PvP build I'm currently using on my noob mage but I have lack of rubies
http://eu.allodswiki.ru/calc/#!2!311.2..…PGBD!ofm/MPCBUW
Those who do not have problems with lack of rubies improve Sleet rubies first, then you can add Shocking Grasp talents and Lighting Jolt rubies if you have full CS items.

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Friday, April 11th 2014, 10:20am

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Here is a PvP build I'm currently using on my noob mage but I have lack of rubies
http://eu.allodswiki.ru/calc/#!2!311.2..…PGBD!ofm/MPCBUW
Those who do not have problems with lack of rubies improve Sleet rubies first, then you can add Shocking Grasp talents and Lighting Jolt rubies if you have full CS items.


You can take 2 of concrete mind (fire tree). It doesn't work, or if it does, its useless, warrior either kills you with one shot or you escape/cc him. And since warriors are overpowered now, most likely he will kill you before you can say 'A'.

btw. Flash r3 has only 5s shorter cooldown ((and jumps 5 yards closer) then the r2, no need to use it on r3.
Instead of Hoarfrost take rubies in Intense cold (max the ice dmg from Ice comets) and Sleet seems more important since it lowers the cd on ice comet/meteor.

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Friday, April 11th 2014, 8:12pm

This is my current Light+Ice PvE spec, any suggestions and critical comments are welcome


http://eu.allodswiki.ru/calc/#!2!113..3.…QB!exbrol/MTTJY

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Friday, April 11th 2014, 8:22pm

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This is my current Light+Ice PvE spec, any suggestions and critical comments are welcome


http://eu.allodswiki.ru/calc/#!2!113..3.…QB!exbrol/MTTJY



no need to take rubies for 'Harden in flames' for pvp, also Aura of astral power isn't for pve. Those rubies I would put in Icy avalanche and double ice grave (also ice grave on r3),since it's very useful on allods/pve.

Sometimes on allods you would need Elemental shield, and dispel (which can be replaced by potions that do the same). And Magical tactic is good on at least r1 (but not necessary). I also use Chains of ice - stops mobs when they aggro on me, and the tank has time to take them.

ps. I noticed, you forgot about elemental wrath (light tree) its mot important skill, gives you back 5 forces when you run out of them

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