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You think that erasing the progress of everyone on a server will somehow boost the population?

Resetting a server in a game that is all about long-term progress over many years is an extremely bad idea. It would show that My.com is willing to erase all progress of its players, and that creates certain uncertainty as to whether it is worth it playing this game at all, if My.com will just reset all progress if they decide.

No, it is a horrible idea to erase all progress all players on your server made. Look, right now free subscription is still running. It is not that hard to get people to try out the game. If you have 5 friends, you can get one to try out the game at least. Do it.

The fact that you want a fresh server doesn't mean that the progress everyone has worked for should just be erased. Fresh servers are only an option when there already is population to support them. Attracting new players should not be done at the expense of driving others away by making the effort they put in the game utterly pointless.

iirc pio said that the sub server costs are actually minimal. also one thing i'm noticing is that people don't want to grind for gold or whatever, so making that more easier for people in the sub server would make it more appealing.

But that is why topics get made? So people get to discuss in them. You should not make any topics ever if you want people to just agree with you.

In RU, the f2p population is 10 times the subscription population. If you want the server to get fixed, get the word out of this community, get people to come and try the game out, especially while the subscription server is free. If you get 1/4 of the people to attract one friend to the server, that is 25% boost in population.

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Fact is: if it goes like this sub server is going to get closed, unless they get massive 1000 player invasion, which is ofc possible, but since there is f2p server right next to it, I doubt it.
I just think this could/maybe be an option.

It takes time for people to realize how the situation really looks like. Obviously seeing there's a free to play server, any potential new players will go there first. They have to hit their heads few times against the great concrete wall before they come to the only conclusion - that there's no point to play there unless you either:

a) are absurdly rich

or

b) can play 8-12h/day

Only THEN they will consider joining the p2p.
Such is people, they have to find out the hard way.

Zitat von »h4wka«

Zitat von »Nova«

iirc pio said that the sub server costs are actually minimal. also one thing i'm noticing is that people don't want to grind for gold or whatever, so making that more easier for people in the sub server would make it more appealing.

I think grinding is pretty minimal at allods? Atleast to compared to some other games, but ofc that gold grinding might be a problem and why not making something up to make it easier, it could help no doubt

I agree, I don't mind the grind either but a majority doesn't . If you look at the various threads about why ppl don't come to p2p, one of the reasons is because they can just buy gold and never have to grind for it. A lot of ppl also value their time, so any time saving mechanic, for example replicators, helps a lot.

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Thanks for your replies but unless you have something else, please make "Don't re-roll sub server" topic or something, I know you are against it and just wanting to see what people would think about that option without your opinion smacked to their face for 2 pages.
Fact is: if it goes like this sub server is going to get closed, unless they get massive 1000 player invasion, which is ofc possible, but since there is f2p server right next to it, I doubt it.
I just think this could/maybe be an option.

Of course it could, but taking that step is very dangerous. When we start playing any sort of online game, but especially MMO-something games (MMORPG is the best-known type of MMO game, but MMOFPS games could (do?) exist, in effect closely resembling an MMORPG with only PvP action), we like some reassurance that the game's operators aren't going to wipe out what we achieve. There's two ways they can do this, of course. They can simply close the game. Game over, man, end of line. It's sad, but it happens, and that's that. The other thing is that they can reset the server(s) so that we have to start over. We all know this is, from a technological point of view, possible for any game operator at any time. You take the server(s) down for maintenance and you delete all character-related information from the game's databases. Voila, a clean server with all game progress erased. The thing is that nobody really believes that any game operator would do that, so an operator that does it will break that trust, and that's more or less the end of that. The game will be known everywhere as the one that scrubbed its servers, and nobody will trust that it won't happen again.

So my opinion is that no, they should NOT do it. It is a HUGE violation of trust, and has the potential to kill off all the operator's other games, never mind just the one that was scrubbed.

What this game really needs for both servers is advertizing. Seriously I have not seen any adds for Allods since the Gipat expansion with the exception of emails from gpotato trying to entice me to come back to the game after the Gipat patch made me quit.

Without advertizing it is hard to get new players to join.

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A lot of ppl also value their time, so any time saving mechanic, for example replicators, helps a lot.

Defeats the purpose of the game.

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Zitat von »Nova«

A lot of ppl also value their time, so any time saving mechanic, for example replicators, helps a lot.

Defeats the purpose of the game.

I also agree (never liked replicators except for using them on a test/finals week) but that's one of the reasons why p2p has like 6ppl on each faction and F2P has like 100-200+ ppl each faction .

The timing of some crucial events, such as dominion and AS, are also straying away some population. Having a debuff that would not allow you to go into AS twice in one day for example would help, or just the general idea of having a debuffs so you can't enter events twice in one day. We already know it's hard to implement, but it would probably help the game for the better in the future.

I'm kinda in favor of this idea but it would have to be executed fairly.

One of the options I had in mind was to open an another p2p server in which players could start from scratch (as mentioned above, server maintenance costs are minimal, right?) and advertise it as "The reborn english/german/french/turkish allods online subscription server!!"which might attract a lot of people that were interested in allods and disliked the pay 2 win model of it, but were too late to join the current p2p server.(And myself is one of them, currently struggling in the f2p server and about to stop wasting time with the evercoming cash shop sales) Also the ones who never heard of allods before and became interested enough to try out such a great game as this!