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As far as I know, acid builds are PvE, not PVP.
Acid sucks away a lot of mana, has low survivability (aura of power > more damage but no useful heals), poor blood circle (maybe something through Dark Pact and Wandering Fever, just to renew Blood Aegis), and no this big damage.

And in PvP stay alive is the most important thing, so..with no blood it's quite hard for a Summoner (cloth armor > squishy creature).

Cadaver has not a big resistance, so with no heals how you keep it alive? And if u can't w/o Cadaver your DPS is silly :/


I'm not a PvP expert and I play full healer but I heard the most damage atm is dealt by vamp builds w/ in case some combos of acid to reduce life tap cooldown
Surely not pure acid ones :/

http://en.allodswiki.ru/calc/!133...3.1.…I!avbhvt/OBUHLU

most damaging summoner build, i dont suggest using it in pvp because ull die in a blink of an eye, maybe if u aoe,send pet and u just run....

I agree with these guys. Acid does orgasmic dmg in PvE, especially in big AoE pulls, but is less than useless in PvP, you die as soon as a warrior on the other side of the map thinks about wandering over. And Vamp can do some very nice burst in PvP, especially with a well timed HoD and Immuno, while still being able to live through just about anything if you are quick enough on the heals and don't get chain cc'd.

Quoted from "reeah19"

http://en.allodswiki.ru/calc/!133...3.1.…I!avbhvt/OBUHLU

most damaging summoner build, i dont suggest using it in pvp because ull die in a blink of an eye, maybe if u aoe,send pet and u just run....

I have never seen anything like this in my life

With this build you might take the spider R2 and the cadaver r2. You'll win damages.

Quoted from "Midnighttree"

Quoted from "reeah19"

http://en.allodswiki.ru/calc/!133...3.1.…I!avbhvt/OBUHLU

most damaging summoner build, i dont suggest using it in pvp because ull die in a blink of an eye, maybe if u aoe,send pet and u just run....

I have never seen anything like this in my life

this build is quite close to what i have been using in raid dominion actually and its interesting that someone has thought of it even coz if i saw the build without doing some testing with it i would say its crap. When i get home ill show u my raid domi build and results of it since now i cant from phone. Pure acid build is useless in pvp and u wont be able to kill any1 with it coz u will die before trying

Sorry for the double post

heres the build:
http://pts.allodswiki.ru/calc#!4!132...3…wibjlnd/MWWYWGF

Its some kind of full aoe with acid pet and strong hots.

At first I thought the build will be really bad since one week before I tried full acid build in raid dominion with acid bolt maxed etc kind of no blood regen build with total crap heals and it pretty much failed, but this one was my next test and it turned out to be VERY efficient what kinda surprised me after the full acid build fail though maybe the acid one partly failed cause our raid failed too Im not sure might test it again today on raid domi and see.

Anyways here are screenshots from the last week raid domi I used it at

DPS

HEAL


As you can see the damage is very high and I even managed to outheal all other summoners in both raids with this build and I didnt even consider it as possible while I was making the build. It also might recieve few changes from me cause its still in testing phase.

So once again I will say full acid build is the most useless build for pvp but making combo with acid pet + some vamp for blood (while having healer on your back) seems quite good if you dare to max out your aoe

It's a very interesting build.
I was wondering about what kind of build to choose for my 2nd one when I'll complete Greatness, since I don't do a lot of pvp. But a pure pve acid build it's quite binding and not suitable for "random" pvp at all (being a FH I need a build useful both in pve and pvp) :/

I think I'll take yours as ispiration, if u don't mind, trying to adapt it to my amount of talents/rubies with some sense

Thank yoy very much for sharing

Quoted from "ValekLost"

It's a very interesting build.
I was wondering about what kind of build to choose for my 2nd one when I'll complete Greatness, since I don't do a lot of pvp. But a pure pve acid build it's quite binding and not suitable for "random" pvp at all (being a FH I need a build useful both in pve and pvp) :/

I think I'll take yours as ispiration, if u don't mind, trying to adapt it to my amount of talents/rubies with some sense

Thank yoy very much for sharing

np but dont forget this build is most likely useful only for AoD and Raid Dominion

Uhm..it's a pity :/
Being a FH with a poor PvP experience, I'm unable to work an universal build out :/
Since I do a lot of PvE it should be more useful an acid build, but I really don't like to have no heals <.<
I tried it but I get a lot confused because I try to heal me and I can't. It's really hard for me to get used to it.

I can try an off heal/vamp build/pvp build useful also in pve (even if I know you don't like these kind of middle curse :p) but I would prefer a build w/Cadaver.

I'm aware that it's quite difficult to find a righ point between an acid build and an off-heal one (and I'm not sure this can make some sense), so that's why your build inspired me, even more because I would play as DPS very rarely.
It's the kind of build I was searching for, w/o understand it was possible to do.
But if you say it's useful only in "raid vs raid"-like backgrounds or btw more for pvp than pve...

I'll continue my research by trials and errors y_y

if you use cadaver instead of lurker for damage you won't be able to heal alot when needed, you'll lack blood, using hod eats it all, also using an acid build without hod wont let you heal because same poor blood regen, if you wanna heal too use lurker, if you prefer just dps pick vamp-cadaver

Quoted from "dragonsvk8"

(while having healer on your back)

Key sentence of this build i believe.

lurker dies within 5 seconds in raid pvp, so "getting blood via pet" is overrated.

Quoted from "reeah19"

if you use cadaver instead of lurker for damage you won't be able to heal alot when needed, you'll lack blood, using hod eats it all, also using an acid build without hod wont let you heal because same poor blood regen, if you wanna heal too use lurker, if you prefer just dps pick vamp-cadaver

For the build I was speaking about, healing is just for myself, because, like I said, I find so hard to have no heals in pure acid builds.
I'd use it in places like Wellebell (easy zones) when I'm alone or to farm mob for the amalgam quest or astral when there is already a healer and I'm more useful for that little more DPS, so my 2nd build should fit both for PvE and PvP with more attention for PvE (I don't like PvP so much, but this game is full of PvP so it can happen to find PvP somewhere while I'm DPS).

But I know these are hard conditions to match in a reasonable build. That's why I like Dracias' build (cadaver+no aura of power+ good offheal) but he use it with an AoE style (VI+Cadaver AOE+all the other dots we have).
I would like to see if, with some changes, it can be useful also in the way I would use it, just for curiosity.


Probably it would be a total fail and it's wiser to do a different DPS (something with lurker or acid, accepting acid+heals are so hard or almost impossible to put together) build and switch to fullhealer in case of PvP.
But I'm an inquiring person and I like to make (disastrous) experiments :p

Sorry for the necroposting, but I've just a little curiosity that don't worth a whole thread.

Does someone know if Reanimator rubies deactivate ALL the acid spells (so Monster/Cadaver can do nothing) or if this works only on the character itself (so a player can choose it using only Monster/Cadaver as "acid" attack)?
Sorry also for the silly question, but I like to snooping around all the mechanics and unfortunately atm I haven't Droplets activated to test myself

Thank you!

Quoted from "ValekLost"

Sorry for the necroposting, but I've just a little curiosity that don't worth a whole thread.

Does someone know if Reanimator rubies deactivate ALL the acid spells (so Monster/Cadaver can do nothing) or if this works only on the character itself (so a player can choose it using only Monster/Cadaver as "acid" attack)?
Sorry also for the silly question, but I like to snooping around all the mechanics and unfortunately atm I haven't Droplets activated to test myself

Thank you!

cadaver works normally even with those rubies which is nice, only acid SPELLS like acid bolt do not work with it

Ok, i'ts like I thought and yes, it's nice
thank you for your kindness!

Quoted from "ValekLost"

Acid sucks away a lot of mana

not true, acid is the most manasaving way of playing summoner, therefore great for timeintensive battles

with green/blue gear both suck mana like crazy... most annoying thing about summoner, tho acid is way less mana sucker than vamp/hybrid