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Quoted from "Hclftw"

There is only a few factors that could change this, although, it still makes no sense as to how they would kill Dragon and we couldn't.
(This is in regards to how far they got in MoS, not in Tep's)
They had more relics, wands and weapons, specifically that gave them the extra boost they needed to push out a few extra waves.
They also got a few extra weeks of keys than we did, so they technically could have a bit more progression than we could.

So......There's a SLIGHT possibility that they had the same version...but it's very slight.

Edit:
Yeah...sorry...congrats though, wave 77 is pretty big. Also sell Odnetnin your mana bike tokens.

We nearly killed Grimnoth in Ascendancy this past weekend. We needed a few more attempts to coordinate moving in and out of the poison, but we had about half the raid still alive when the Charged mobs spawned. If people hadn't left, we would have had the boss in the bag. Also for Decen, old Ascendancy was already onto the part with the Charged mobs. Supposedly they had gotten all the way to the Wall, but didn't quite manage to pull it off. I wasn't there for that run, but I was with them several times when we got to Chargeds.

Quoted from "rozetri"

Quoted from "Hclftw"

There is only a few factors that could change this, although, it still makes no sense as to how they would kill Dragon and we couldn't.
(This is in regards to how far they got in MoS, not in Tep's)
They had more relics, wands and weapons, specifically that gave them the extra boost they needed to push out a few extra waves.
They also got a few extra weeks of keys than we did, so they technically could have a bit more progression than we could.

So......There's a SLIGHT possibility that they had the same version...but it's very slight.

Edit:
Yeah...sorry...congrats though, wave 77 is pretty big. Also sell Odnetnin your mana bike tokens.

We nearly killed Grimnoth in Ascendancy this past weekend. We needed a few more attempts to coordinate moving in and out of the poison, but we had about half the raid still alive when the Charged mobs spawned. If people hadn't left, we would have had the boss in the bag. Also for Decen, old Ascendancy was already onto the part with the Charged mobs. Supposedly they had gotten all the way to the Wall, but didn't quite manage to pull it off. I wasn't there for that run, but I was with them several times when we got to Chargeds.

Old Ascendancy did it before the the cooldown nerf to DD. Ofc their gear and CS lvls were far above everybody else too.

Quoted from "HungryTurtle"

and overall...nothing was ever scaled for patronage 4 on eu server...that was just crap gm said
we killed drake in tep only after we got p5, because it was impossible before even if we had best ppl from minc,

Why exactly should we believe your personal anecdote over the word of GM's and our own experiences?

Well anyway you're in for a shock because this new server is going to be pure Pat5 stuff, so don't be surprised if you can't do nearly as well as you could before.

Good Job guys

Dont really wanna argue about that our mos was easier or not

but can tell you that for all the season the top champion party was stuck at wave 65-69...guess same as NA ppl

and only in the last week 1 sos party went over 70+ and got wave 76 from what i heard
we got 77 only this monday before we were aswell stuck on 66-70


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zwpAh84lKE
here is the Russian video when they got wave 82 check on 11:15 when
they kill snake boss 5 seconds before new boss spawns and check our
video at 9:30 we kill it few seconds after them with almost same ammount
of group dps.
they had like 8300k+dps at the boss kill with turret while we had 8100k+dps whitout turret.

the russian group had gearscores over 9400+---yea they were full 56 glyphd some of them with runes from 13-8
our grup had gearscores from 9300-9400 pretty much and our runes from 12-10

me
and dracias were watching the russian video alot so im pretty sure we
have all the same version of mos and nothing was ever changed in there.
and almost sure same goes for tep

as
for tep and dragon....before we got patronage 5 we could not kill head
of dragon when it spawnd...best attempts were from 15-30% wipes from
what i remember.
but as soon as we got p5 was easy with right
setup....also you ppl look dps only from first kills videos...wich are
really bad in terms of dps with ppl failing alot ....if you saw dps from a week or 2 ago you would see huge diffrence..

well if you have more questions feel free to ask

anyway ty all...we had alot of fun in mos...and pretty sure our party well deserved titles

next season will be even more of a challenge for all...cant wait

Good job !!

nice and OP!

Quoted from "Teppisch"

Quoted from "odnetnin"

Quoted from "Teppisch"

You know how much work it would be to scale EVERY MOB in the game down ? :O

3 seconds i can show you to query into a DB that would scale the HP of every monster. (If monster data isnt stored that way though could be a different story, but thats how it has been done in games ive worked on)

Each mob has it's own folder and own file That's what I know. Can't verify 100% though.

But yea point stays the same that the community basically wanted it

It is very unlikely that an MMORPG server will have its data (even if static) stored with files.
usually everything except for executables (obviously) and serversided meshes (which can be very big) is stored in a database (SQL/MySQL/etc).
and he is right, a simple one-line query to the database and you're pretty much done.
the thing is, you don't even need to do that.
you can have a static and global variable that will determine the scale and you can even change it in real-time without even touching any database/files.
for example, look at this theoretical monster class and its constructor (the constructor here is = "cMob(DWORD mobID)"):

this way, every monster that will be created/spawned/callitwhatyouwant ingame will have x1.5 HP.
and more than that, you can change this value on-the-fly and newly spawned monsters will have the new scaled HP.
this is how EXP and Drop Rate events work by the way.
* this is not the real code of the game of course. obviously I have no access to their source code. but the concept is the same.

Gz

Quoted from "Teppisch"

Quoted from "odnetnin"

Quoted from "Teppisch"

You know how much work it would be to scale EVERY MOB in the game down ? :O

3 seconds i can show you to query into a DB that would scale the HP of every monster. (If monster data isnt stored that way though could be a different story, but thats how it has been done in games ive worked on)

Each mob has it's own folder and own file That's what I know. Can't verify 100% though.

But yea point stays the same that the community basically wanted it

Depends on implementation really. But judging from what I've seen in this game, the programmers are rock solid, and I wouldn't be surprised if there's a some kind of multiplier variable placed that can be used to manipulate everything at once.

For example, at one point they changed the Empire symbol from a stylized "H" into a Star. All the symbols on the imperial fences and buildings seemed like just links to where the actual symbol is stored and changed (I think, obviously I don't got access to source code) automatically.

Edit: Bah, slow typing. Someone above explained it with waaay more detail and a pseudocode example.

gonna be so much butt hurt, e-peen fighting, and people in there feelings on this board

Gz!!

Rly nice to see you guys still got 77 waves even after the MoS changes on 4.0.4.


PS: imho i think both servers had same scalling for p5 but doesnt matter now, just bring the new patch!!

Quoted from "HungryTurtle"

Dont really wanna argue about that our mos was easier or not

but can tell you that for all the season the top champion party was stuck at wave 65-69...guess same as NA ppl

and only in the last week 1 sos party went over 70+ and got wave 76 from what i heard
we got 77 only this monday before we were aswell stuck on 66-70

Yup with less DPS, Runes, Gear Score, and without a Turret you finish in roughly the same amount of time as the Russians.

That totally shows that you had the same version as the rest of us.

I'll do the same as draci x)

Gratz guys!

EU client was same as NA and same as RU. it's just... some ppl can be better/luckier than you, you know

Quoted from "Autopsyst"

EU client was same as NA and same as RU. it's just... some ppl can be better/luckier than you, you know

GM's said otherwise, but I look forward to EU tears when they find out how hard the mobs really are on the new server.

Quoted from "metallix6"

Quoted from "Autopsyst"

EU client was same as NA and same as RU. it's just... some ppl can be better/luckier than you, you know

GM's said otherwise, but I look forward to EU tears when they find out how hard the mobs really are on the new server.

If you played on the EU version, you know how "awesome and competent" the GMs were there, with pulling leaderboards manually when there's an API for that.