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Thursday, August 7th 2014, 9:01pm

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Quoted from "VashBog_Highroller"

Why can't people just admit that the prices of this server are 4-6 times higher than on RU server?
Is that so hard?
Just look at at a blind person can tell!!!
Quit trying to sugar coat it you sound stupid!

Because multi-currency economics isn't just about which number is bigger?

For us, playing on the Russian server is the "optimum" cost experience, as every $1 you earn is worth roughly $8 to a Russian.

Its why outsourcing is so popular.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

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Thursday, August 7th 2014, 9:07pm

VashBOG™

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Quoted from "Dhamp"

Quoted from "VashBog_Highroller"

Why can't people just admit that the prices of this server are 4-6 times higher than on RU server?
Is that so hard?
Just look at at a blind person can tell!!!
Quit trying to sugar coat it you sound stupid!

Because multi-currency economics isn't just about which number is bigger?

Ok "Dhamp" can you tell me who the hell are you? You've budged in every damn post I've made. If you are a nobody here and are trying to brown nose some people, knock it off, none of my previous posts have been towards you, nor have I asked you for your opinion bout any of my previous posts.

Quite frankly, I DON'T CARE WHAT THE PRICE ON EITHER SERVER ARE, I GOT ALL I NEED I AM JUST POINTING OUT THE OBVIOUS!

How about you go take a look and compare the runes on RU server and our server to show you how many people are running with 13s and such.
How do you explain that??
People from RU that play on our server came here because they can not compete with the masses of the full CSed players on RU, and that is a fact.

PS I don't need you to quote my posts, I am posing my opinion, and I don't need your opinion on my opinion, majority agrees with me and me with them, you will not win this battle.

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Thursday, August 7th 2014, 9:14pm

Dhamp

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Quoted from "VashBog_Highroller"

Ok "Dhamp" can you tell me who the hell are you? You've budged in every damn post I've made. If you are a nobody here and are trying to brown nose some people, knock it off, none of my previous posts have been towards you, nor have I asked you for your opinion bout any of my previous posts.

http://en.allods.com/forum/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=3995

Quoted from "VashBog_Highroller"

Quite frankly, I DON'T CARE WHAT THE PRICE ON EITHER SERVER ARE, I GOT ALL I NEED I AM JUST POINTING OUT THE OBVIOUS!

What is obvious, and what is valid are rarely the same.

Quoted from "VashBog_Highroller"

How about you go take a look and compare the runes on RU server and our server to show you how many people are running with 13s and such.
How do you explain that??
People from RU that play on our server came here because they can not compete with the masses of the full CSed players on RU, and that is a fact.

There are many reasons that this game is more successful in Russia. Maybe as it is a Russian targeted game, it has, say, a market advantage over western and asian p2p games, and so takes market share from there, rather than competing against other f2p games here.

Im an IT guy, not a market analyst.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

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Thursday, August 7th 2014, 9:16pm

Dhamp

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You are also conflating my disagrement with your factual errors with disagreement with your general premise.

I do think our CS prices are too steep. But that's not to say that they are cheaper in Russia.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

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Thursday, August 7th 2014, 9:17pm

IAmGroot

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I'm starting to think Dhamp and ALLODS ONLINE PLAYER are twin brothers or something...
I just give up.

Bottom line is OUR CS PRICES ARE WAY TOO HIGH, PLEASE [MUTING] LOWER THEM.

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Thursday, August 7th 2014, 9:26pm

VashBOG™

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Think you need to go take your name because you are full of it.
Not even gonna bother reading any crap you wrote.
But do take my advice that I just gave you.

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Thursday, August 7th 2014, 9:26pm

bunzy

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lmao, there charging 10 crystals for a 50 pack of mount feed, but charging us 100 crystals for the same thing and you still are arguing the ratios are the same. here ill help you.

puri scrolls on the ru server versus ours. there very similarly priced, there almost on the same price point. obviously not everything is on the same ratio when we are all playing the same game. if we went by the argument of ratios our puri scrolls would be 4x the price they currently are.

but look at battle ground cash shop ruby

this all is pretty funny since the main argument for people not playing allods is the cash shop is to high

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Thursday, August 7th 2014, 9:40pm

Dhamp

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Of course it's not across the board the same - no multi-market game has ever just lifted and shifted ratios. Buying habits vary immensely.

For the record, I'm actually in favour of a more comprehensive overhaul of the Boutique system.

I'd have green and blue scrolls of all varieties (non-scalable) for 50/500 crystals each, along with a ~25% decrease in all "multiple use" or core items, such as refractors and catalysts, and the Magpie.

Expansion token and crystal chip prices would stay the same, but would scale through tiers differently, making low level runes and bags cheaper, but high level runes more expensive, with roughly the same net cost at max level.

I would also make a basic form of each combat mount available through a daily meta quest, like Reincarnation.

The basics should be more accessible, but the luxuries, I would say are about right.

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

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Thursday, August 7th 2014, 9:51pm

bunzy

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Quoted from "Dhamp"

making low level runes and bags cheaper, but high level runes more expensive, with roughly the same net cost at max level.

This post has been edited 5 times, last edit by "bunzy" (Aug 7th 2014, 10:16pm)

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Thursday, August 7th 2014, 10:33pm

Dala

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Quoted from "Hclftw"

I also think this is hilarious because 2 of your highest paying players (One with full 13s and every other CS item imaginable and one with a 13/12/12/10x and every other CS item imaginable with a SERIOUS strongbox addiction) are the ones complaining about your pricing.

That's pretty logical. Since they use the Boutique the most, they would gain the most on lowered prices.

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Friday, August 8th 2014, 12:04am

ALLODS-ONLINE-PLAYER

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Quoted from "Hclftw"

What you described to me is an incredibly casual player's mindset.
To many gamers, that are hardcore, but still want to be f2p, this is not true at all.

Not purchasing purification scrolls and serendipity upgraders = throwing away progression.
Not purchasing elixirs or specs of light means you are content with mediocre dps.

So, in a technical term, you are correct, however, for people that care about their character and pride high DPS and pride maximizing their potential you are completely in the wrong direction.

of course this is not the way of the "highest dps 1st place gearrace priders"

i try to save as much gold as possible

and yes, this way sacrifices some speed for gold

however if the cursed item woud have been just an item thats not fitting it would be the same since its about luck what you get there

so im a bit behind, but i will reach cap sometime
and then im even regarding gear, but im superior regarding costs

and regarding spcs of light: im shocked how strong their dps reduced... before new statsystem they did some noticeable dmg while now... they do not matter so much, even in long battles

its a bit like buying a CPU with 3 ghz for 100$ or buying one with 3,2 for 400$... (just an example)

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Friday, August 8th 2014, 12:09am

ALLODS-ONLINE-PLAYER

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Quoted from "Hclftw"

I also think this is hilarious because 2 of your highest paying players (One with full 13s and every other CS item imaginable and one with a 13/12/12/10x and every other CS item imaginable with a SERIOUS strongbox addiction) are the ones complaining about your pricing.

if i would be the management, and there would be 2 whales (thats the therm which is used for players which spend very high amounts of money) , which say they dislike my pricing, but they still buy lots of things, i would not take them serious at all...

as for the pricing i dont know how or if it is more expensive than in russia, but since it wont change anyway there is only the way to "vote with your wallet"
but again this only works if a lot of ppl do it

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Friday, August 8th 2014, 12:14am

IAmGroot

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Quoted from "ALLODS-ONLINE-PLAYER"

Quoted from "Hclftw"

I also think this is hilarious because 2 of your highest paying players (One with full 13s and every other CS item imaginable and one with a 13/12/12/10x and every other CS item imaginable with a SERIOUS strongbox addiction) are the ones complaining about your pricing.

if i would be the management, and there would be 2 whales (thats the therm which is used for players which spend very high amounts of money) , which say they dislike my pricing, but they still buy lots of things, i would not take them serious at all...

I have spent $49.99 on this game since the producer has changed to mail.ru.
Why? Because the prices as absolutely asinine.
How much did I spend before mail.ru when we had reasonable pricing?
Tens of thousands.

So is your point still valid?
Nope.

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Friday, August 8th 2014, 2:31am

Blessme

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The prices will get lower according to the Boston model used in marketing, since the plc-curve has reached its max. One of the reasons why we are seeing the new tear item, even tho that's just a flunk before the Price droping.

The really heavy CS spenders have maxed out on items that don't need replacement, which is also why we are seeing the Price increase in the Rune system. Runes are the lowest advantage giving item compared to price once you get High lvl runes, which is why it's the last items fully upgraded by top dogs.

This is atleast my theory as bachelor in finance, with an earlier degree in marketing :thumbsup:

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Friday, August 8th 2014, 2:37am

Blessme

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Sidenote, please keep in mind that rusians do not have a Daily incense and mount feed quest(unless it changed), so prices on those items can't be the same.

But yea rusia have Many different things like the lottery system, in which I even believe you can buy legendary CS items in, if you gather enough of the reward points. :pinch:

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Friday, August 8th 2014, 8:17am

Spinecrawler

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Talking and flaming here won't change anything. If You want prices or cash shop in general to change You need to stop buying. As simple as it sounds it is close to imposible to achieve cause if one a$$hole buys something and gets a bit stronger than guess what's gonna happen =.=

Well.... unless You play EvE Online

there players actually can take matters in their own hands when they see that developer wants to screw them over. /if You want to know more about it google "Jita riot", fun piece of mmo history

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Friday, August 8th 2014, 11:33am

Blessme

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Lmao way too funny with that riot.. Bam just shooting a Star Down!
Don't think we Can smash yaske tower tho! Would give allods good PR tho! :thumbsup:

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Friday, August 8th 2014, 1:37pm

Blessme

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You guys made me want to try the top up function and I must say it made me cry..

Let's say an EU person use 100 euro, which same as 133,68 USD, then the EU person gets 250 more BC..

Also before when I played on NA I could buy 11.500BC with bonus(10.000 without) for 100 USD, now I get 10.000 for 133,68 USD..
- I would had popped 100 USD more into this if it still had the Gpot ratio.

Together with the other things stated between rusia/eu-na price difference its totally fcked..