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Thursday, January 1st 2015, 3:29pm

thank god for ghost and dala god bless welcome to the bdc :^)

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Thursday, January 1st 2015, 3:42pm

Dog mount is available from Ancient Mound. It's 14.9m/s, it IS FAST.



Dog is only 13.00m/s - Cat is still faster.

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Thursday, January 1st 2015, 4:12pm

Dog mount is available from Ancient Mound. It's 14.9m/s, it IS FAST.


Dog is only 13.00m/s - Cat is still faster.


Actually Astral cat is 14.35 8|
Did not know that.

Even better, because cat is easier to get than dog.

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Thursday, January 1st 2015, 5:01pm

Well i'll more than likely be giving allods a shot if there's anyone who knows the game out there that'd be willing to give a helping hand to set me on the right path once i get out of the tut area (if there is one) that'd be great.


regardless what server you choose, this is useful http://de.allods.com/forum/index.php?pag…d&threadID=5703

F2P server is for: People who enjoy microtransactions.


and for ppl who do not want to pay at all...
and for ppl who do not want to pay every month so they can no longer play without $ at all
(exception = those who get payserver-time with gold)
P2P server is for: People who want to experience the game without the influence of cash shop


yes

So, if i were to make a F2p character how would i exchange gold for sub time? would i need to start a new character? and how long would it take roughly to even get the gold to exchange for it?


you would go to exchange NPC and exchange gold to BC
then you have BC on your account

it would take long to get the gold as a new player

use this game to relax...if i now work in this GAME too then i do something terribly wrong...


i agree completely

and its not like everyone is running with lvl 13 runes here... ther are at max 10 players with them and half of them are so bad you can kill them and laugh while doing it


also absolutely true
but some ppl act like everyone but them have full 13 runes :pinch:

Well with all that being said is there an exchange person on the P2P worlds by chance?


no, the gold from payserver cannot be used to gain playtime

ALright so F2p is either ridiculously large ammounts of money that i'm not willing to throw down or ridiculously large ammounts of time.


if you want to play for long the "ridiculously large ammounts of money" are no problem since you gain gold anyway, more gold than you need for non-cs things

This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "ALLODS-ONLINE-PLAYER" (Jan 1st 2015, 5:13pm)


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Thursday, January 1st 2015, 5:32pm

if you want to play for long the "ridiculously large ammounts of money" are no problem since you gain gold anyway, more gold than you need for non-cs things
Dunno if i laugh or cry.

From blue equipment to epic, with amalgams, without doubles you will need about 200k gold overall.

Tell me how much TIME does a player need to farm daily, to get this ammount of gold.

Avo.

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Thursday, January 1st 2015, 5:47pm

i will answer in RED for the sake of readability
what is missing on payserver:

Aaaaaargh, the misinformation/emphasizing unimportant things, it burnsssss...
ok, then lets say "what is not available" on payserver
i am aware not everyone is missing these things but some may do
i do not want players realize late that some things are not possible to get

+ FAST Mounts (no, 12m/s is NOT fast!)

Dog mount is available from Ancient Mound. It's 14.9m/s, it IS FAST.
its still slower than the pegasus that also has a jump-ability (and is no pvp mount!)

+ Astral Servant

Unless you pump large amounts of cash or play few years already, very unlikely you'll ever have it.
when the sale for it is, you can buy it really cheap from other players
also for those who are ok with donating from time to time its no problem at all
but its an item for the veterans anyway and not for everybody (new)

+ Statpoints (only 20/25 available)

Unless you pump large amounts of cash or play few years already, very unlikely you'll have more on f2p.
this is also for the veterans
btw i think the additional statpoints are the compensation for the missing M5 on payserver, i think this is a good thing


+ Talenpoints
+ Rubies

There's 3 less talent points and 3 less rubies than total maximum available on f2p. Aaaand again:
Unless you pump large amounts of cash or play few years already, very unlikely you'll have more on f2p.
also for veterans
+ Defensive Statpoints

No one else you're competing against has them. Fair game.
its not the pvp i am about, its more about the pve
the additional bloodlust helps a LOT in wild shore

+ Proper Trinkets

Trinkets you collect from shards are good enough for PvE. No one else you're competing against in PvP has better anyway.
same here, even without trinket you would be good enough
but why should i aim for something inferior? in PVE doing more dps is also nice


+ Multiple Reincarnations

No big deal. There is usually a clear winner for a best reinc skill for your main and if you're one of those people who likes to play different characters, rolling a new alt is not an absolute futility like it is on f2p.
new char would mean no lootpet until level 30 and no horse, the microbag again etc
imagine you have the catmount and then you want to make a reincarnation... horse again....
also you do not start the new chars with additional talentpoints rubys etc

+ Decent Bag (no i am not willing to do astral/raids first to store basic items!)

If you're the type who just afks in the main city or doesn't care to gear/progress, meh, I'm not sure if I want to convince this type of player to join at all...
the bag metter more for me than the gear
because with a microbag its no fun to gear / level at all
i simply dislike the fact i have to do a RAID for geting a normal bag... effort vs effect is not OK here

+ Endless Respec Talents/Stats

Unless you pump large amounts of cash or play few years already, very unlikely you'll ever have it.
this is again an item for veterans
but if i am a veteran on payserver im still in need of paying for every respec... aw
+ No Matrial-Looter (Herbalism/Mining; -> Handworks are pointless without them; effort> time)

This is actually very good. Some people are lazy enough for this to remove them entirely from your competition on the market.
the small competiotion on the market on payserver is due to the small population
picking all the things manually forever is simply not worth the effort

+ Auction House is almost useless on payserver -> Farming gold is inevitable -> you PAY and have to farm?! thats a bad joke, i want either pay OR farm, but not both, lol

Completely disagree, I find farming an enjoyable aspect of the game too.
i enjoy it too, but its a pity if you dont profit from the farming if you can... on free server i know that every piece of gold will be used to strenghten my char, but on payserver i would just farm for the sake of farming
+ Lootpt is available very late, if i pay i am not willing to play until coba without lootpet!!

That's not even close to "very late". It's available during the leveling process, that's not even beginning of endgame, it's a very small total percentage of your playtime to get there.
for a new player it might be OK
but for a veteran (at least for me) its unacceptable
like i said, if i pay i want to get something for my money
paying for someone else NOT having something is not my definition of that

+ Mercenaries still cost gold, if i pay monthly i want free mercs!

As far as I know, they cost exactly the same on f2p.
yes. what i mean is that they should be free at payserver

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Saturday, January 3rd 2015, 5:27am

pls no red -.- it huuuuuurts my eyes ! but exept fot this feel free to continue i like this discussion^^

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Saturday, January 3rd 2015, 11:11am

you should go on 2p, f2p is pay to win and totally unbalanced for pvp

in fact should find another game, because aods is going for die, wth all these inequalities, many peole are leaving this game, and no gm are working for make the game better

good luck if you want to try the experience on ao

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Saturday, January 3rd 2015, 3:30pm

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unbalanced for pvp


p2p isnt even better

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Saturday, January 3rd 2015, 3:35pm

unbalanced for pvp


p2p isnt even better


p2p Empire lvl 60 Paladin Bowtiful

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Saturday, January 3rd 2015, 3:49pm

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Ähm PVP on P2P is BETTER ^^

Now there is a equip different because of the last fraction change option league is outnumbered but its no permanent prob ;)

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Saturday, January 3rd 2015, 6:23pm

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1. this equip differences is still enough to make it unbalance. Thinkking that everybody will sometime have the same gs is just stupid. Nvm about CS.
2. Next thing u blind troll forgot is the Playerbase. The matchmaking normally should sort by gearscore to make it fair but on dumb p2p with...lets be friendly and say 50 active players per faction u will never get enough players with the same gear.
3. The Classbalance isnt different than f2p so scouts will kill everything in bgs anyway

IDk where u lost u brains thinking that pvp on p2p is fair or better but idc
Cant imagine how ppl didnt knew this ...

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Saturday, January 3rd 2015, 6:42pm

p2p Empire lvl 60 Paladin Bowtiful

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Saturday, January 3rd 2015, 9:16pm

i always wonder why ppl search for fairness in games like this one

fairness is usually available in sportgames like football or something, lol

this here is about beeing superior and letting everybody who is not feel that

spare the enemy? or would you rather enjoy killing with no remorse?

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Sunday, January 4th 2015, 3:27am

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1. this equip differences is still enough to make it unbalance. Thinkking that everybody will sometime have the same gs is just stupid. Nvm about CS.
2. Next thing u blind troll forgot is the Playerbase. The matchmaking normally should sort by gearscore to make it fair but on dumb p2p with...lets be friendly and say 50 active players per faction u will never get enough players with the same gear.
3. The Classbalance isnt different than f2p so scouts will kill everything in bgs anyway

IDk where u lost u brains thinking that pvp on p2p is fair or better but idc
Cant imagine how ppl didnt knew this ...


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Tuesday, January 6th 2015, 9:56am

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dude dont start with p2p........................
the server is completly dead. its like 5 people at max everytime i login to it...

its not a good experience, its not an experience at al

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Tuesday, January 6th 2015, 10:52am

dude dont start with p2p........................
the server is completly dead. its like 5 people at max everytime i login to it...

its not a good experience, its not an experience at al

Does AOP have another account on forum?

Avo.

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Tuesday, January 6th 2015, 10:56am

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ALright so F2p is either ridiculously large ammounts of money that i'm not willing to throw down or ridiculously large ammounts of time. though F2p seems to have the larger community where as the p2p seems to have a small but fairly active bunch. think i'll save up some money and go with p2p thanks for helpin' me decide guys.


Larger amounts of players yes. From what I've seen on f2p the English speaking player base has disappeared under the sheer amounts of none-English-speaking players from several server merges. Infact the last time i logged in to f2p world/zone was just being spammed by arabic.

IMO P2P is just generally a better gaming experience with a closer community due to the low population.

P2P sure you have to farm your gold for everything but everyone is equal, no runes, no P5, no stupid items that buff you from kill streaks etc just plain old gear and skill =)

According to this ALLODS-ONLINE-PLAYER All of the CS items on F2P are farmable? Sure if you have 10 hours a day to farm gold and do nothing else, farming for years to get CS items, no thanks. Farming gold for CS items on F2P is not a viable way to play on this server 'nuff said.

All of these people saying P2P is dead, meh stop spewing shit. It's not dead, a dead server doesn't raid or pvp or do anything for that matter, P2P can still do all of the end game content so don't comment about things you all clearly have no knowledge of lol. As for the PvP not being balanced, also a lie, if you think that scouts just 1hit everything here then clearly you suck.

And this "1. this equip differences is still enough to make it unbalance. Thinkking that everybody will sometime have the same gs is just stupid. Nvm about CS." I have no problem killing or standing my ground against people with 4/5/6k GS difference. Only people I have no real chance against are those that are 10K higher than me. Gear doesn't mean everything. If they don't know how to play their class they're going to suck either way
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