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This post has been edited 20 times, last edit by "ALLODS-ONLINE-PLAYER" (Apr 29th 2015, 12:32am) with the following reason: title/thread creation/removing quotes adding info after free month on subscription server
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All in all, AOP has a FEW reasonable answers, but for the most part...p2p sounds great IF YOU HAVE NEVER PLAYED ALLODS BEFORE.actually not having these things would reduce my experience in a notable way
its much more that is missing...
i will copy the list once more, just for those who are new so they can decide whether its OK for them or not
what is missing on payserver:
+ FAST Mounts (no, 12m/s is NOT fast!) ---> but there is a catmount available thats not incredibly slow, however you must do a raid first to get it... so you are dependent on a lot of ppl to get it
If you never had a faster mount than what they have on there, you wouldn't notice a difference. Therefore, I think this point (for new players) is useless.
+ Astral Servant
Again, without ever having it before, you wouldn't notice. That being said.....I don't know how any of the previous F2P players that now play on the P2P server can play without this...It's simply ... game changing.
+ Statpoints (only 20/25 available)
Doesn't matter if all are equal.
+ Talenpoints
This is SOMEWHAT true, as it limits people to "lesser quality" builds in my opinion. You must go ONE path instead of having multiple useful things on your character. Missing 6 talents...is kind of a big deal. But again...if you never had it...you wouldn't know the difference.
+ Rubies
Exact same thing as talent points.
+ Defensive Statpoints
Exact same thing as talent points and bonus rubies.
+ Proper Trinkets
If we could turn back time...jesus man...This is one of the biggest cash shop NOPES in this game. I hate it, I hate it, I hate it. I wish this was NEVER introduced. I LOVED having a piece of gear like that, a trinket, be a random and VERY DIFFICULT drop to get. I loved farming for my + 100 intelligence or whatever item that was the trinket from DFR. I loved that, but now it's a requirement to have the cash shop trinket. This...ugh I hate this stupid trinket.
+ Multiple Reincarnations
O.o? You can't have more than 1 reincarnation? If that's true.....ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww sorry but ewwwwwwwww that would bother the absolute hell out of me. Is this for real? =\ Ugh...
+ Decent Bag (no i am not willing to do astral/raids first to store basic items!)
This is actually a reasonable gripe. There is so much trash loot and quest items that your bag does fill up very fast. I do think that the P2P server should start +1 or +2 bag slot sizes up from the F2P server to make up for this.
+ Endless Respec Talents/Stats (no matter how long you play it will never be free on payserver )
I think someone stated that it costs 4,000g to respec...that seems like about 30 minutes of farming...so I don't think that's an issue at all.
+ No Matrial-Looter (Herbalism/Mining; -> Handworks are pointless without them; effort> time)
Yeah...this is really silly to not have this. But to be fair, for the longest time...we did NOT have this and we all lived. So...I guess this one is a "suck it up, buttercup" situation.
+ Auction House is almost useless on payserver -> Farming gold is inevitable -> you PAY and have to farm?! thats a bad joke, i want either pay OR farm, but not both, lol
For the longest time all I did was farm the auction house and farm mobs in KoE (before they broke KoE) so ... again ... this is completely personal preference and I don't agree with your preference.
+ Lootpet is available very late, if i pay i am not willing to play until coba without lootpet!!
At least it's available, and to be honest...coba is only level 31-34...so that's not that long to wait. You're starting to get REALLY petty with your gripes.
+ Mercenaries still cost gold, if i pay monthly i want free mercs! --> maybe this is solved with version 6.0? i dont know
Again, getting petty. They have to have gold sinks in the game, aside from upgrading gear. This is one of them.
Hmm i remember class/race abilites unlock was about getting all race specific skills for classes. So xada, gibbis scouts can use orc leap skill.16. Class abilities unlock Useless in P2P. It's a P2W thing. You can buy a class ability why should reincas exist
Missing this item on P2P make actually PVP not equal
Hmm so you cant tell me why this item isnt on P2P server, also how item which give all race same racial skills is P2W?Missing this item on P2P make actually PVP not equal
It will simply never be a server for you... You want P2W stuff stay in F2P... Dam.. .Is always this, and that, and what else everyone can remember... If you prefer to have a million stuff just because they are in F2P (which was the coz of game failure and trying to be restored with P2P) just pls, STAY IN F2P...
This skills are called RACIAL SKILLS for some reason. If you think they are so unbalanced, just pick that you think its OP and go to that race and faction... Problem solved!!!!!
Ppl sometimes just like to scream "im here, im here"...
No one cares what you think Allods-Online-Player your F2P not P2P so stop talking about it and let new players try it out rather then listen or read about you downing P2P
Missing this item on P2P make actually PVP not equal(some races have better racial skills than others)
I like orc emotions menu(cry, beg, wave and so on), but i dont want leap racial skill for orc scout.
AOP should try to leave his bias out of the cons.
you comments did not keep their color in my quote, but i still quoted it to discuss this here, answers from me in red1. 5th level of Patronage - Useless in P2P. how is it useless? killings mobs more efficient & doing more heal is useless?
2. Elixirs Useless in P2P. Required in P2W its helpful but not required at all, lol... i have never bought ANY elixier, its a waste of gold
3. Additional rubies provided by Pages from Great Mage's Diary You get them in P2P. you dont get all of the extra rubies, just some, right?
4. Additional skill points provided by Scrolls of the Sacrament You get them in P2P. you dont get all of the extra rubies, just some, right?
5. Emblems of the Wrathful Wizard You have epic on P2P and this means another lack of damage
6. Mount spells and Patronage spells You have them in P2P. Not the rank 2 but isn't a lethal think is it? having no galopp is a real PAIN with the already sluglike mounts on payserver; while having no invis at all also takes out a lot of options in game
7. Battlemounts You have them in P2P. where do you have them? wraith and rumble are available? how to get them?
8. Amalgam Catalysts Useless in P2P. additional amalgam is useless? (i never use this item but i would not call it useless)
9. Quest lines with Astral gemstones (Lapis Lazuli, Topaz, Chrysolites) from class trainers Useless in P2P. additional rubies are useless? why not make it available to do it manual but with 100% chance of getting a gem?
10. Mana Batteries, Thunderstrikes and Turrets Useless in P2P. P2W item. if everyonce can have it its not "unfair p2w"
11. Curse removal Guess why you don't have these???? Yes, you don't have cursed items in P2P -.- logical, yes
12. Experience boosters You don't have them in P2P. But...... You have 30% on exp ALWAYS + 10% from Flag of war -> i NEVER farmed a level....thats nice
13. Quest Log expansion Useless in P2P. You don't need to keep hundreds of quests since this isn't old experience system. beeing able to take more Q is never useless and i really dont see why Qlog isnt simply enlarged on payserver by default
14. Universal Reagents for crafting You have everything you need for a balanced crafting system. 3 days i made Alchy 60, got second profession and in 2 hours made level 60 Tailoring ( i had the components from leveling, so, all by myself) especially with the lack of loot-helpers this would be useful , why not selling it from NPC for gold...?
15. Mystery Seal Useless in P2P. You do the quests, they are easy and get you experience. its not funny to do greatness & all the raids a 2nd time on a reinc should also be available for gold or something
16. Class abilities unlock Useless in P2P. It's a P2W thing. You can buy a class ability why should reincas exist class-skills =/= racial skills
17. Additional Reincarnations Could be good in P2P. We have just one. totally agree, there should be possible as many reincs as classes are there!
18. Horn of War and premium chats Useless in P2P. I don't feel a bigger player if on top of my char head i have some fairy bubbles to say what i can without this. i dont know these items, just give them for free or something
19. June Coins Could be good in P2P, not a requirement. another item i dont understand why its not available... its not like they make you win a battle
20. Some Mount Colour Patterns from the Boutique 1 or 2 mounts unavailable in P2P? Yes, if you don't possess 123123 mounts while 23123 of them have same speed and same skills you won't be a successful player. -> unattractive to collectors and mount-lovers
21. Most of the decorative items from the BoutiqueNo comments... another HUGE miss here, many players including me LOVE the vanity items in this game and its a BIG shame to reduce them!!
22. 2nd and 3rd crafting profession unlock You can have 2 and really need more? Alchy for pots and Inspiration for crafting profession. AH and mates will complete the rest. Plus, you can make what others can with recipes so... Useless 1 for gear, 1 for weapon 1 for potions, makes 3... i really like to be able to craft my things myself without beeing dependent on others
23. Mount feed and additional Stable Slots You have 10 slots for mounts, patterns doesn't occupy slot. You can increase it by doing some turns in Tka-Rik cave and get unlocks.
24. Keys for chests No comments...
25. Master Goblin and its duplicates from Strongboxes This could be useful yes. But it's necessary or did we became lazy by it just to go to bank or next NPC to sell? Tho the TP option could makes it's use... one of the biggest misses, in combination with the tiny bag its a real problem
26. Coupons Useless in P2P.
27. Specks of Light Useless in P2P. P2W item 2% more dmg do not make anyone win a battle, but its, again, potential dmg / heal that is NEVER available, which is sad since every player could just have infinite of them -> equal conditions
28. Ship Consumables Useless in P2P. in dep astral aditional ship emanations are useless? actually they can help a lot, i dont see why they are not available for gold on payserver
29. Magic Ink. Useless in P2P.
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