Allods Online Forum

Professional

dont listen to the p2p flamers

i agree with gear > all but playerskill can EASILY! surpass several rune lvl... ofc if you fight lvl 1 rune against lvl 13 its will be near to impossible... but if you go for average runes of lets say 7 you can even join the strongest guilds and win the hardest dominion...

my tipp if you really want to play active on f2p buy the miraclious arc

it gives you lvl 5 or 6 runes complete and the possibility to be lvl 60 instantly ( but not sure if you want to use this cuz if you new you should at least play the storyline 1 time

) but the runes for 57 euro are acceptable (and my wish is still growing for an even better starter set for new players

)

Go to the top of the page

5

Tuesday, July 7th 2015, 1:57am

Gheistlocke

Beginner

Posts: 24

Location: EST

Occupation: Chef Life

Quoted from "Bluescarlet"

dont listen to the p2p flamers i agree with gear > all but playerskill can EASILY! surpass several rune lvl... ofc if you fight lvl 1 rune against lvl 13 its will be near to impossible... but if you go for average runes of lets say 7 you can even join the strongest guilds and win the hardest dominion...

my tipp if you really want to play active on f2p buy the miraclious arc it gives you lvl 5 or 6 runes complete and the possibility to be lvl 60 instantly ( but not sure if you want to use this cuz if you new you should at least play the storyline 1 time) but the runes for 57 euro are acceptable (and my wish is still growing for an even better starter set for new players )

Skill beating runes? No. Never.

It takes one hit. One single hit (through my damage absorb shield skills even) to die while wearing epics, legends, and mythics in up to lvl 7 runes. I know... I suffered for weeks trying to get in on f2p PvP. It won't happen.

I still love this game more than any other MMO though. I intend to go p2p server for my PvP fix in a couple days. Imp side.

::Ghesitlocke::
Arisen Occultist
....555/667....

::Ogreleg::
Arisen Heretic

MMO Experience:
- WoW, Age of Wushu, Tera, SWTOR, Swordsman, Atlantica, EVE, Allods, Secret World, Star Trek Online, ArcheAge, Age of Conan, Diablo 2*, Diablo 3*, Path of Exile*, Champions Online, Skyforge

Favorites:
- WoW: Vanilla - Wrath, Age of Wushu, Allods, EVE, Diablo 2*, Path of Exile*, Age of Conan

Ruined by Pay-to-Win:
- Age of Wushu, ArcheAge, Allods (free server), Diablo 3*

Waiting for:
- Star Citizen

Go to the top of the page

6

Tuesday, July 7th 2015, 3:48pm

Professional

the fuck

if it takes one hit ! to kill you then you do something really wrong dude... even my a blue equipped player with lvl 0 runes wouldnt die in 1 hit... expect you mean something like full surge or deterboostet pally... cuz they can onehit an enemy with lvl 13 runes too ... i dont want to say f2p has roses everywhere but dammit dont make it sound worse than it is!

Go to the top of the page

7

Tuesday, July 7th 2015, 7:21pm

Sage

1 vs 1 Arena Battleground
Useful info for Rookies
Guide to social interaction
Pro/Contra List - Subscription-Server

Quoted from "Gheistlocke"

Skill beating runes? No. Never.

i have watched several players killing higher runed ones, skill (along with proper spec!) does matter in this game

but if skill is equal, this here is correct

Quoted from "Dala"

player gear (stats) > cash shop > player skill

note however that cashshop does not mean only runes but the full amout of improvements you can get as additional defense points, additional offense ect

tl,dr if you gear up fully runes wont make a big difference
its not like you would be with runes 2-1-1 1-1-1 all the time and runes improve with time anyway, even for full free to play ppl

Go to the top of the page

8

Tuesday, July 7th 2015, 7:59pm

IAmGroot

Professional

Posts: 1,349

Location: Wisconsin - USA

Occupation: Destoryer of all things you love

Quoted from "ALLODS-ONLINE-PLAYER"

tl,dr if you gear up fully runes wont make a big difference

What?

So if everyone is on an even playing field, in regards to gear, lets say everyone is 90k gearscore. No more. No less.
You're saying that if one has level 13 runes and the other has level 7 runes, the level 7 rune person has a chance?
o.o
I've been trying REALLY hard to leave you alone because I have been a little over the top sometimes towards you but...dudeeeeee stopppp spreadinggggg falseeeeee promisesssssssss. :thumbdown:

Go to the top of the page

9

Tuesday, July 7th 2015, 11:36pm

glyph26

Beginner

Posts: 4

Location: USA

Quoted from "IAmGroot"

Quoted from "ALLODS-ONLINE-PLAYER"

tl,dr if you gear up fully runes wont make a big difference

What?

So if everyone is on an even playing field, in regards to gear, lets say everyone is 90k gearscore. No more. No less.
You're saying that if one has level 13 runes and the other has level 7 runes, the level 7 rune person has a chance?
o.o
I've been trying REALLY hard to leave you alone because I have been a little over the top sometimes towards you but...dudeeeeee stopppp spreadinggggg falseeeeee promisesssssssss.

So if they are even geared, and the only difference is runes, and lets say the level 7 rune person is much better at pvp; then the higher skilled player should win. yes? Lets say for example they are both good at pvp but the lower rune person knows a couple more tricks or combos to give him a slight advantage, can he still win?

animadverto

Go to the top of the page

10

Wednesday, July 8th 2015, 12:23am

Sage

1 vs 1 Arena Battleground
Useful info for Rookies
Guide to social interaction
Pro/Contra List - Subscription-Server

Quoted from "IAmGroot"

Quoted from "ALLODS-ONLINE-PLAYER"

tl,dr if you gear up fully runes wont make a big difference

What?

So if everyone is on an even playing field, in regards to gear, lets say everyone is 90k gearscore. No more. No less.
You're saying that if one has level 13 runes and the other has level 7 runes, the level 7 rune person has a chance?
o.o
I've been trying REALLY hard to leave you alone because I have been a little over the top sometimes towards you but...dudeeeeee stopppp spreadinggggg falseeeeee promisesssssssss.

level 7 vs 13 is most likely too much

but level 9 vs level 13 can win, this is what i have already seen (although the level 13 players did not seem to be a skilled player, i have to say that)
dont know about level 8, would be interesting but should be hard as level 9 vs 13 seems hard already

also, everything about level 10 runes is very rare and only a handful of players have that

Go to the top of the page

11

Wednesday, July 8th 2015, 8:30am

Pochtron

Intermediate

Posts: 440

Location: France

Occupation: Quitted

Quoted from "ALLODS-ONLINE-PLAYER"

also, everything about level 10 runes is very rare and only a handful of players have that

Just ... LOL.

A kind advice for new & returning players : please consider anything AOP has to say about pvp or cash shop as total nonsense. It will save you much trouble and disappointement.

Go to the top of the page

12

Wednesday, July 8th 2015, 10:35am

Sage

1 vs 1 Arena Battleground
Useful info for Rookies
Guide to social interaction
Pro/Contra List - Subscription-Server

when were you in BG last time...?
most players are around level 6 or even lower...
now with the huge amount of new players ive even seen a lot of green runed players...

Go to the top of the page

13

Wednesday, July 8th 2015, 10:50am

Ritchan

Trainee

Posts: 58

How can you know when you are afk all the time?

Go to the top of the page

14

Wednesday, July 8th 2015, 3:17pm

Professional

well well iam always confused when i agree with AOP... i mean IN GENERAL he is right there are certainly waaaaay more lower runed players in this game than high runed ones... but this depents on what you want to do in pvp

looking for even weaker prey or attack everything cuz nothing is too big for you

btw i already saw many many lvl 7 and 8 runes guys literally destroying lvl 13 runed players including myself :whistling:

but when its like some say impossible maybe iam special :rolleyes:

Go to the top of the page

15

Wednesday, July 8th 2015, 4:43pm

IAmGroot

Professional

Posts: 1,349

Location: Wisconsin - USA

Occupation: Destoryer of all things you love

I made assumptions with his situation.

I assumed all players had exactly the same gear.
I assumed all players had all the same CS items with 1 exception (Full level 7 runes against full level 13 runes).
I assumed all players had EXACTLY the same skill level.

So if the above scenario is in place, no, there is absolutely no possible way (unless somehow the level 7 rune got a REALLY LUCKY 100% crit rate during the fight) the level 7 rune player would beat a level 13 rune player.
It's simple math.

Go to the top of the page

16

Wednesday, July 8th 2015, 4:51pm

Gladia

Master

Posts: 2,420

Hello,

As the original topic went totally off-topic, I created a new one (topic) where you can continue talking about runes over gear over skill, or maybe the contrary.

Allods Online Discord
Check out the community chat
Choose EU in #language chan
----
Rejoignez la communauté sur le serveur Discord Allods Online
Clic sur le drapeau EU dans le canal #language

Go to the top of the page

17

Wednesday, July 8th 2015, 4:57pm

Dala

Professional

Posts: 1,186

Quoted from "Gladia"

Hello,

As the original topic went totally off-topic, I created a new one (topic) where you can continue talking about runes over gear over skill, or maybe the contrary.

I did not create the thread. I feel used

Go to the top of the page

18

Wednesday, July 8th 2015, 5:50pm

Professional

admit you like it dala!

and to groot lol well yeah when all have the same skill,class and equip ofc then the runes will decide the outcome

but thats impossible expect you fight clones of yourself

Go to the top of the page

19

Wednesday, July 8th 2015, 7:08pm

Sage

1 vs 1 Arena Battleground
Useful info for Rookies
Guide to social interaction
Pro/Contra List - Subscription-Server

Quoted from "Ritchan"

How can you know when you are afk all the time?

not moving does not mean someone is actually afk
and it seems you havent seen me ingame for a long time now

Go to the top of the page

20

Wednesday, July 8th 2015, 7:11pm

Sage