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I do. I still call this a dead server, given I trust Steam to understand if they just transform this server into a "F2P steam" one, they are shooting a bullet in their foot.
To each their own opinion...I don't believe it's dead, it's just severely wounded in need of some serious medical attention.
Also, I'm not giving much credit to any statement made by Mhuldoon, sorry to say.
lol
And if you read on, maybe a reboot and a complete purge of the past errors is exactly what this game needs - even if it means sacrificing a few top donators over over it.
I'm not going to disagree with this, however, I really hope (for my sake and many others that have spent more than they purchased their car for...) that it doesn't work that way because there's no way I'm repaying thousands lol.
I do. I still call this a dead server, given I trust Steam to understand if they just transform this server into a "F2P steam" one, they are shooting a bullet in their foot.
To each their own opinion...I don't believe it's dead, it's just severely wounded in need of some serious medical attention.
Also, I'm not giving much credit to any statement made by Mhuldoon, sorry to say.
lol
And if you read on, maybe a reboot and a complete purge of the past errors is exactly what this game needs - even if it means sacrificing a few top donators over over it.
I'm not going to disagree with this, however, I really hope (for my sake and many others that have spent more than they purchased their car for...) that it doesn't work that way because there's no way I'm repaying thousands lol.
+1 million to Groot's reply. If this server "quits" and Steam launches a new server - there's no way in h*** I'll ever start over in Steam. If my.com does that with Steam, they show such bad treatment to their most loyal players it will forever more kill their reputation worldwide. Who the f*** would ever again want to play a game that has done something like that?What they could do instead, is give a semi-free starter package like the Ark but with full 7 runes, large bag/bank, at least rank 5 mount and a loot pet. With semi-free I mean really cheap deal like 2000 crystals. And this big ass deal could be a special sale at the launch of patch 7.0.0 in EN server for couple months. Then the price could get up to 3500 - 4000 crystals but still be forever available to new comers. If 2k crystals is too much to pay from all that to someone, Allods is a wrong game for them. Because, if you look for more content than the basic game, you have to pay - it's the truth in every single game.
What they could do instead, is give a semi-free starter package like the Ark but with full 7 runes, large bag/bank, at least rank 5 mount and a loot pet. With semi-free I mean really cheap deal like 2000 crystals. And this big ass deal could be a special sale at the launch of patch 7.0.0 in EN server for couple months. Then the price could get up to 3500 - 4000 crystals but still be forever available to new comers. If 2k crystals is too much to pay from all that to someone, Allods is a wrong game for them. Because, if you look for more content than the basic game, you have to pay - it's the truth in every single game.
personnaly if i'd have to chose between :
-playing on a dying server
-or playing on a server full of new player who all have for 20-30€ what i've invest X-months/years/X € to get...
...i'd choose the 1st one, because i don't get the interest to play if it's to almost negate the superiority i wanted to get over newcomers threw my years of playing.
This post has been edited 7 times, last edit by "Dala" (Feb 7th 2016, 1:54pm)
and i completly respect your POV Dala
i think that's the main difference between the f2p/p2p players mentality :
the f2p players like to be able to get super overpowered threw time when p2p players like to enjoy the 100% game-play experience.
if all this would be politic, i'd say that fp2 = capitalisme and p2p = communism (funny thing is that i hate how violent is the capitalist world in which we live, but i appreciate the cool motivation it gives in an mmo)
I don't care much about the power... I used my € for vanities and mounts and it would sincerely piss me off to lose almost 600 items + 17 mounts and their numerous skins - I have worked my butt off to get them. Countless hours of grinding event quests every year + a lot of € for special stuffs like halloween vanity etc. I don't consider those event quest grindings as fun but I do them because I want the vanities. I really don't want to ever have to farm those items again from big fat 0.Funny thing how a hard reset is something entirely different for different groups of players. I would not care if they hard reset my server at all (if it meant a stable population growth in the future) because I know I would get where I am again, and that journey would be fun again. People who got where they are largely by means other than playing the game would hate such scenario.
IMO every new players in an mmo should know that he will never be as good as a veteran (at least regarding the cs).
if all this would be politic, i'd say that fp2 = capitalisme and p2p = communism (funny thing is that i hate how violent is the capitalist world in which we live, but i appreciate the cool motivation it gives in an mmo)
fp2 = capitalisme and p2p = communism (funny thing is that i hate how violent is the capitalist world in which we live, but i appreciate the cool motivation it gives in an mmo)
I'd lose interest if I had to play on the same server with a group of people who progress faster with less time spent actually playing just because they have fat wallets.
This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "ALLODS-ONLINE-PLAYER" (Feb 8th 2016, 2:04am)
So this game is launching on steam ... and will be dead on launch again. Allods needs a relaunch with a different business model ( tera style would be amazing ) in EU/NA, that is actually the time to do it, but we all know thats not gonna happen and thats the sad part.
in a stateful (progressive) game it would require to get best gear/items/teammates in order to get a serious OPTION to be absolute top (without taking into consideration that excellent knowledge regarding gamemechanics classes etc would be needed)
I'd lose interest if I had to play on the same server with a group of people who progress faster with less time spent actually playing just because they have fat wallets.
if they would gain these advantages by excessive farming, would you were OK with it?
if yes, just imagine the whales as hardcore-farmers
(or as players who bought gold from goldsellers but did not get caught!)
This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Dala" (Feb 8th 2016, 11:16am)
half of the point is that its f2p. if you take the free, out, you will lose alot of players.
This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Dala" (Feb 8th 2016, 5:11pm)
The point is that you've already enjoyed the game for years - been more powerful than new players for quite some time now. Level 7 runes are new average among players that aren't completely new at this moment. So giving them and future new players a decent start with reasonable cost doesn't take away your superiority because you don't have that even now, if you have 7 runes atm.-or playing on a server full of new player who all have for 20-30€ what i've invest X-months/years/X € to get...
...i'd choose the 1st one, because i don't get the interest to play if it's to almost negate the superiority i wanted to get over newcomers threw my years of playing.
This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Gwiniel" (Feb 9th 2016, 2:24pm)
Maybe so, but we continue to tell people (in all games related to the company) not to assume that everything that happens there will happen here (excluding the games-core, obviously, which is entirely their call). Ultimately, we do not follow their event patterns and always need to have room for factors (eg. market being the prime example) that cannot be applied across the board. However, as simple as some may think the situation is, it requires a lot of discussion between all parties as there are pro's and con's no matter which way it goes, hence until it is set in stone one way or the other, there cannot be a guarantee -- but as stated above, over on this side we officially had no plans for separation regarding main server & upcoming steam iteration, meaning we'd hoped both can coexist together. Until discussions close on the subject, that remains the plan -- but as said, that does not mean it is guaranteed to happen as it's not our call alone to make.Hey folks,
As it stands, EU held no plans to separate Steam & current server, actively welcoming the mixture.
This is completely ass backwards from the Russian server...which we ALWAYS follow...to a damn T other than the sales.
Are you sure you have real information?
If you are sure that this is even a possibility...this is how I feel right now:
I'm just having a hard time believing this incredibly great news.
Quoted from "freestile"
-or playing on a server full of new player who all have for 20-30€ what i've invest X-months/years/X € to get...
...i'd choose the 1st one, because i don't get the interest to play if it's to almost negate the superiority i wanted to get over newcomers threw my years of playing.
The point is that you've already enjoyed the game for years - been more powerful than new players for quite some time now. Level 7 runes are new average among players that aren't completely new at this moment. So giving them and future new players a decent start with reasonable cost doesn't take away your superiority because you don't have that even now, if you have 7 runes atm.
You have paid to enjoy for all these years Allods has been around... so I don't really understand your point of view. You would still be superior in most CS stuff + in knowledge and skill and gears than any new player.
For example: Lets say you buy a X game from store... you play it for 5 months and a new sequel X2 is published. You go buy that too and play the X and X2 the next 5 months... then sequal X3 is published and you buy that too and enjoy another 5 months. Then a new "guy" comes and says, "Oh - that game looks interesting", and buys X and X2 which are now on hefty sale and the X3 with reduced price.... Say you spend 300 €/$ to those 3 games when they were brand new (100 €/$ each)... the random guy gets all 3 games with 140 €/$ 15 months after the game X was published. Same should happen in Allods Online, it would be logical.