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Saturday, June 25th 2016, 12:54pm

Frakkerz

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Growth Package

So i have been playing a little bit of this game on my iphone and i came across the option to buy a "Growth Package", the idea of getting premium currency as you progress.

The proposed idea,
Players can buy the package, the price depends on the level, the earlier you buy it, the cheaper it is.
The full value of the package would be approx 130 euros so it is really worth buying.

The package would reward players at every 10 levels. upgrading their runes to the next level each time

ALL BOUND

Price below level 10, 35 euros.
Level 10 : full set of level 1 runes ( or how many they can equip actually )

Price below level 20, 37 euros.
Level 20 : full set of level 2 runes ( again i dont know how many they can equip )

Price below level 30, 39 euros.
level 30 : full set of level 3 runes

Price below level 40, 41 euros.
level 40 : full set of level 4 runes

Price below level 50, 43 euros.
level 50 : full set of level 5 runes

Price below level 60, 45 euros.
level 60 : full set of level 6 runes

Price below level 70, 47 euros.
level 70 : full set of level 7 runes.

Price at level 70, 50 euros.

Each set of runes REPLACES the old runes, so by level 70 they will have a full set of 7's . The 6s 5s 4s 3s 2s and 1s will be gone unless purchased at level 70 in which case the player will just receive a full set of 7s which can be used to upgrade what they already have.

The majority of people who look at this game, find out very quickly that it is pay to win and will avoid playing. With this package, players can get the standard expected runes 777/777 for end game, while they level, for nearly 25% of the full price.
Existing players have the option to buy it aswell so they do not end up with lower runes than the new guys. Of course as they receive a full set instead of replacement, the higher price is justified. level 1 to 6 runes are NOT upgradable. NOT tradable. and NOT discardable. Level 7 runes are normal runes, that can be upgraded, like what we currently have.

Q: How would you control the price by level.
A: When the player joins the game they will be given a coupon which can be redeemed for the lowest price, 35 euros (in game transaction) or 3500 crystals. When the player levels up to the next price bracket, the coupon will be replaced with the new one if it was not redeemed. If the player redeems the coupon, they will not receive anymore coupons, as they will get all rewards already. Existing players will get the coupon that fits their level bracket on the day this is implemented.

Q: Why should a level 70 pay more than a level 5 or a level 40 pay more than a level 10.
A: The idea of the growth package is that new players can grow with their level and when they get to level 70, they wont feel so out of place, complain that the game is pay to win and then quit. The package however is also available to existing players so that they do not feel like new players will end up stronger than they are for such a much cheaper price. However, because of the nature of the level 70 reward in that they are you can use them to upgrade what you have already, for example. I have full 9 runes, i can buy this package and have 6x 9s, and 6x 7s.

Thoughts?

This would be advertised on the fact that you are getting 130 euro value for only 35 euro if you purchase when you join.

This post has been edited 3 times, last edit by "Frakkerz" (Jun 25th 2016, 1:16pm)


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Sunday, June 26th 2016, 4:26pm

i would not be happy to see full level 7s gifted to everyone for nothing, just by leveling

if you want level 7's gain the gold to build them by farming, trading, etc or buy it with $ to support the gameserver

those who are not OK with the runesystem can stick with subscriptionserver

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Sunday, June 26th 2016, 6:58pm

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i would not be happy to see full level 7s gifted to everyone for nothing, just by leveling


They still have to pay...idk if you read his post.


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Sunday, June 26th 2016, 8:01pm

as you gain a lot of gold by leveling and there is a "75%" (?) discount in the end its like for free, but i admit i may have not expressed that clear enough
--> "130 euro value for only 35 euro"

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Monday, June 27th 2016, 10:39am

Gwiniel

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I don't know how you value runes and the base value of 130€ but full set of level 7 runes are much more expensive. Compared to the sheer amount of in-game gold and real money used to make full set of 7s in a traditional way, even the price of 50€ you suggested to be the price at level 70 is ridiculously cheap!

You need 34 788 crystals for full set of 7s which costs 174€ (in today's Item Shop prices) and in addition to that you need 18 939 378 gold dusts which cost 153 900 golds in-game (in today's gold dust value). To get all that with mere 35€ before level 10 is plain ridiculous - even if the new set of runes would unlock after each reached 10 levels.

The bare minimum cost for full set of 7 runes should be at least 120€ - no matter at which level you purchase the package - and even that is laughably cheap when considered from the company's point of view.

A much better idea would be to buy a set of runes that can be upgraded higher with upgrade packages which have no level limits - then the price won't be as high instantly and you can play alright the leveling content. What I mean is this:

- After level 15 you can buy a full set of level 3 runes with 3€ (normal crystal price is 5,80€) and you gain the access to rune upgrading packages
-- rune upgrading package for full set of level 4 runes would cost 5€ (normal price upgrading from full 3s to full 4s cost 9,50€).
-- upgrading package for full set of level 5 runes would cost 15€ (normal price upgrading from full 4s to 5s cost 20,90€)
-- for full set of level 6 runes, cost 37€ (normal price would be 44,50€)
-- for full set of level 7 runes, cost 80€ (normal price would be 93,30€)
= full set of level 7 runes would cost totally 140€ - which is still cheaper than 174€, which is the normal cost and much better from the company's point of view. And still it would not be as costly for players to slowly/gradually purchase the full set of 7 runes.

This however would only reach till level 7 runes... beyond that it would be the normal process with rune upgrading. Everyone - the old and new alike - could use the upgrading until they have full set of level 7s.

The packages also have the gold dust needed so players don't have to spend in-game gold to buy the gold dust separately while using upgrading packages!
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This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Gwiniel" (Jun 27th 2016, 10:47am)


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Monday, June 27th 2016, 1:19pm

you only need 12k bc for full r7 set when exchange rate is at 900g = 1 bc. Its cheaper now since 1 bc = 1300+g. the 3k bc price of the task force event can give you r5 set. there was also a 80% reduction on price of full r5 set (they can give that sale once player reach level 20 since pvp start at AT).

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