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Friday, July 1st 2016, 11:39am

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Greetings,
lately i came to conclusion P2P server would need more premium items. Like helper which gather herbs (either for gold or for $$$), what do you think?

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Friday, July 1st 2016, 11:46am

there are actually players who really enjoy picking their herbs manually one by one (no really, they exist, i wrote with one)
if you want really comfortable gameplay with respec everywhere, loot materials automatically, a large bag, full reincarnations, a lot of costumes and so on you should consider the free server for playing

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Friday, July 1st 2016, 12:18pm

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there are actually players who really enjoy picking their herbs manually one by one (no really, they exist, i wrote with one)
if you want really comfortable gameplay with respec everywhere, loot materials automatically, a large bag, full reincarnations, a lot of costumes and so on you should consider the free server for playing

You should seriously stop misleading people with statetments like this. The only free thing you list in there are the costumes, for the rest, be prepared to spend hard cash or farm for it for months if not years (respec everywhere, just lol). Currency is at 1:1450 on F2P server.

As for proper answer to OP, yes it maybe be a nice addition as a raid reward or something similar, but for sure no cash since the purpose of this server is to have everything included in the monthly fee :)

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Friday, July 1st 2016, 3:02pm

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Currency is at 1:1450 on F2P server.


Wow, is it really? I haven't played in a month or so and holy god...that's so high...
RIP F2P gaming...


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Friday, July 1st 2016, 6:09pm

there are actually players who really enjoy picking their herbs manually one by one (no really, they exist, i wrote with one)
if you want really comfortable gameplay with respec everywhere, loot materials automatically, a large bag, full reincarnations, a lot of costumes and so on you should consider the free server for playing
*IF* there are people out there who actually enjoy running around and spending the time to pick each herb individually, all they have to do is turn off looter pet.

Entertain the masses, not the 1 individual who *may or may not possibly like picking herbs in the spring during a typhoon*.

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Friday, July 1st 2016, 6:18pm

it was one of my many suggestions long time ago to add more comfort to the paid server, but in general the answers were something like "this is unfair (OP)" "this breaks the balance" and "we dont need & want thesese things"
ironically i also brang up that the looter could be disabled(and thus the masses + these who are "special" may be entertained), but the answer was like "no then my products lose worth as everyone have them without effort"

@Pochtron if you (plant to) play a game for a long time, saving up gold for months (even years!) does not matter, you gain it anyway, sooner or later, and thus in the end it is free
its not like you have fixed costs in this game
i still say putting $ is just for the impatient

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Friday, July 1st 2016, 7:06pm


i still say putting $ is just for the impatient
Now how would putting $ in the game be for the impatient when one skirmish win only gives you 1 shard? That would make you have to win 3000 times to even get 4s/5s just be farming. It's not for the impatient, its for those who want to be able to play the game without being flamed at for not putting cash in the game, its to not be voted out of a battleground for not doing enough damage or healing because you aren't as well equipped cash shop wise as the next player. One of the helpers manuals on p2p would be much better for those who struggle to level their professions because not a lot of people decide to level alchemy or blacksmithing because they have to backtrack through zones and look around to gather themselves. It wouldn't throw off the balance of the server, it would just allow for those who want to earn some money to earn some easier by selling their potions and such and help us endgamers progress a bit easier due to the extra stat boost from potions.

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Friday, July 1st 2016, 7:35pm

those who want to be able to play the game without being flamed at for not putting cash in the game

if some random from the internet flames you for whatever, will you

A - ignore him via ignorelist and maybe send him a happy "f*** you"
B - follow the command of a random idiot on the internet and do whatever he demands you to do?

everyone sane would do A because this individual which wants to command randoms has been forever sorted out as a possible ingamefriend anyway, so nothing of value is lost here
NEVER LET SILLY FLAMERS RUIN YOUR GAME
with 7.0 i did not see any player beeing kicked for weakness and before 7.0 there still was the failproof system of just changing to another char after beeing kicked (30 min pass fastr than you can rotate your chars)

another thing is that as a new player without deep understanding of the game & classmechanics PVP will usually be not much of an interest anyway whichs leads us to the situation that we wont have any trouble because of beeing weaker than veterans
its the same as a level 15 wont be interested in doing a fractal-raid
and i still would say top-pvp is the king's discipline here

the only point of putting $ in game when not beeing someone impatient is when my RL consumes so much time i cant find any time to play properly until im retired but i have enough $ so i can even spend it on virtual good without regretting it ever (but i guess thats a rare case)


so "social" pressure is not a reason to use $ in this game, not at all
impatience is, willingness to support the game in general is (the best reason btw!) and having no time is one too

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regarding our main topic, i would also think its a good idea to add looter-instructions to subscriptionserver! just put it for XXX gold and done :)

Bu mesaj 1 defa düzenlendi, son düzenlemeyi yapan "ALLODS-ONLINE-PLAYER" (Jul 1st 2016, 8:03pm)


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Saturday, July 2nd 2016, 2:04am

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@Pochtron if you (plant to) play a game for a long time, saving up gold for months (even years!) does not matter, you gain it anyway, sooner or later, and thus in the end it is free
its not like you have fixed costs in this game
i still say putting $ is just for the impatient

Then you should rephrase your previous statement like "if you want really comfortable gameplay, AFTER SPENDING LONG TIME FARMING IT, with respec everywhere, loot materials automatically, a large bag [etc.]".
You make it sound as if it was a given on F2P server, when it's not. New players will have a much easier time getting a "comfortable gameplay" with the core things needed for it on P2P than on F2P given the current state of things, even if they don't have all the bells & whistles there is on F2P server.

Bu mesaj 5 defa düzenlendi, son düzenlemeyi yapan "Pochtron" (Jul 2nd 2016, 2:15am)


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Saturday, July 2nd 2016, 2:11pm

there are actually players who really enjoy picking their herbs manually one by one



As for proper answer to OP, yes it maybe be a nice addition as a raid reward or something similar, but for sure no cash since the purpose of this server is to have everything included in the monthly fee :)

As a reminder, we are already paying for the game. Why should we have less stuff than F2P?!

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Saturday, July 2nd 2016, 2:28pm


@Pochtron if you (plant to) play a game for a long time, saving up gold for months (even years!) does not matter, you gain it anyway, sooner or later, and thus in the end it is free
its not like you have fixed costs in this game
i still say putting $ is just for the impatient

Then you should rephrase your previous statement like "if you want really comfortable gameplay, AFTER SPENDING LONG TIME FARMING IT, with respec everywhere, loot materials automatically, a large bag [etc.]".
You make it sound as if it was a given on F2P server, when it's not. New players will have a much easier time getting a "comfortable gameplay" with the core things needed for it on P2P than on F2P given the current state of things, even if they don't have all the bells & whistles there is on F2P server.


i think its self-evident that things need to be farmed or bought in a free internetgame


but it does not take this long to gain the "basic" things which are cheap but enhance the comfort so much, even if you ply completely free
also you can consider a ONE TIME donation for lets say 30$ then you can have a decent mount, a looter and some runes from the start + exchange the rest for gold to buy green or blue items from auction

only top-pvp items & enhancements take long(er), but as we said, these are of minor interest to a new player...

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