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New expansion too easy?

Hey so i noticed that the new instances are very very easy, not only are thhere only 4 instances (wtf) when last expansion we had like 8 of em? but they are also so easy? me and my party just got to epic sector, we play with 66k gs and with a tank who still have some green gear.

and to make the time go faster i am playing tetris... on the last boss..
and im the healer in my party and i barrely have to do anything? does the leggy serctor get harder in comparesing?

I mean when the healer is playing tetris on the finnal boss with an undergeared tank you know you´ve done fucked up right?

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Wednesday, April 27th 2016, 11:37am

Trainee

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does the leggy serctor get harder in comparesing?

No, its easier.
If you're doing epic sector 2 with green tank and half afk healer, that sure is impressive. I mean it makes no sense if you're not doing s2. Why would anyone complain about easy content when there is harder available. Right?

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Wednesday, April 27th 2016, 11:38am

Lioo

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The first sector is extremely easy, yes. The second sector is quite hard.
And no, the legend sector is equally easy as the epic sector, the mobs maybe have a tiny bit more HP tho.

The first sector is not meant to be hard. it's for your daily loot. if you want a challenge, then try the second sector.

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Wednesday, April 27th 2016, 11:39am

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Well that is a good point but the thing is we tried playing s2 blue with 3 70k + gearscore and we didnt stand a chance at all, s1epic seemed to be alot easier than s2 rare, so then whats the point? or did we do something wrong?

Though i have another question, s2 drops more loot right? so does it require the same ammount of keys with more loot? or do they require more keys? if so then its just a way to burn the few keys you get.

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Wednesday, April 27th 2016, 11:42am

Dala

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My post is relevant to s2 only. I'd have hard time believing someone actually complaining about 'too easy' when there's a much harder mode available.

I have no idea how much difference patronage 5 and runes above 6 make on the F2P, but on P2P server only bosses worth killing are:

Plague City - all except the flame wave boss.
Zalesky Posad - 2nd boss
TT - first boss

And you need to be 100% focused entire fight on each of those to not get 1-2 shot by some random damage.

Everything else - better just re-queue for your time and nerves.
Turtle Island is off limits completely, it's just... /gasp :cursing:

Also with 7.1 there will be 6 more islands.

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Wednesday, April 27th 2016, 11:42am

Dibricius

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Looks like you never go to s2

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Pretty hard for a heal to maintain your party alive, especially for a Priest on Tensess Last Boss for example

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Wednesday, April 27th 2016, 11:42am

Lioo

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whats the point?

In the second sector you get more combat materials plus more equipment loot. If you run S2 with all your keys, then you can craft faster epic or legend equipment.

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Lioo" (Apr 27th 2016, 11:48am)

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Wednesday, April 27th 2016, 11:45am

Hiren

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Quoted from "The Allods Project"

Well that is a good point but the thing is we tried playing s2 blue with 3 70k + gearscore and we didnt stand a chance at all, s1epic seemed to be alot easier than s2 rare, so then whats the point? or did we do something wrong?

Though i have another question, s2 drops more loot right? so does it require the same ammount of keys with more loot? or do they require more keys? if so then its just a way to burn the few keys you get.

The point is that you get more rewards from S2 epic than S1 epic.
I am totally confused though, you were saying the game is so easy you can beat allods being semi-afk and now you're telling us you can't even touch the hard content. S1 is mostly a solo content with mercenaries.

As for the variety - there'll be about 6 more allods in 7.0.1 patch, but that's about 2-3 months away still, I imagine.

Stargazer - P2P League
Hiren - P2P Empire

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Wednesday, April 27th 2016, 11:47am

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s2 blue with 3 70k + gearscore and we didnt stand a chance at all

Git gud.

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s1epic seemed to be alot easier than s2 rare, so then whats the point? or did we do something wrong?

Legendary s1 is easier than green s2. It iss simple really. s1 means easy and s2 means hard. Most of the bosses have additional tactics compared to s1 and you actually need to understand what is going on.

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s2 drops more loot right?

s1 drops items up to 85% efficacy and s2 drops items up to 100%. Also you get more combat materials per key spent.

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Wednesday, April 27th 2016, 11:47am

Pochtron

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Going S2 for any sector gives more combat materials (reinforced combat mats vs. normal combat mats) and better drops - chances for uncursed >90% efficacy is much higher.

S2 also needs understanding of bosses mechanics - you can't beat them with bruteforce, understanding how they work will make your life easier. They all have added mechanics in S2 compared to the same boss in S1, in addition to more damage/HP.

Edit : Gibe and a lot others beat me to it

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Wednesday, April 27th 2016, 11:53am

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Well i didnt really tell you that the end game was easy, it was more of a question for why it was so easy. but then what is more effective?
Green s2 or epic s1? what gives more crafting materials?

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Wednesday, April 27th 2016, 11:59am

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Green s2 or epic s1? what gives more crafting materials?

Epic s1 sure is more loot than green s2. But you should be going Epic s2 right now. You can see the amount of loot you get from this dungeon list in game

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Wednesday, April 27th 2016, 12:03pm

Hiren

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Well i didnt really tell you that the end game was easy, it was more of a question for why it was so easy. but then what is more effective?
Green s2 or epic s1? what gives more crafting materials?

Epic S1 should give more Combat Materials than Green S2 and also better items as drops. But there's absolutely no point comparing sectors of different qualities.
S2 is more rewarding than S1 of the same quality, simple as that.

If you can only do epic S1, while everyone else is doing epic S2, you'll be behind in terms of gear.
If you can only do regular Fractal while everyone else is doing hard mode of it, you'll be behind in terms of gear.

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Hiren - P2P Empire

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Wednesday, April 27th 2016, 12:43pm

Tidehunter

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Quoted from "Dala"

My post is relevant to s2 only. I'd have hard time believing someone actually complaining about 'too easy' when there's a much harder mode available.

I have no idea how much difference patronage 5 and runes above 6 make on the F2P, but on P2P server only bosses worth killing are:

Plague City - all except the flame wave boss.
Zalesky Posad - 2nd boss
TT - first boss

With sligtly better gear, specific party compositions and patience you'll be able to kill almost everything, but time spent trying doesnt worth it in terms of loot, better spend it in Fractal.

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Wednesday, April 27th 2016, 12:53pm

Grimpf

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For legend Sector it is:

S1 14 keys (1 day) = 756 crafting Matierials, used with CS Tool => 54 / Material and you get 1 per key (I use all my keys / day and always get 14) / 54*14=756

S2 14 keys (1 day) = 1134 crafting Matierials, used with CS Tool, the S2 Matierails are at 150% of the S1 ones / 54*14*1,5 = 1134

You need 8400 Mats to craft 1 legend eq ; S1 - 11,1 days for 1 legend gear part ; S2 - 7,4 days for 1 legend gear part.

Direct loot is random, but in S2 there are "better" drops, it is possible to get (uncursed) direct loot with >80% for stats on it.

If you are rich and can affort CS scrolls to uncurse items, you are fine with S1 direct loot, the cursed ones are always near 90-100%

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Wednesday, April 27th 2016, 2:06pm

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man i wish there was 3 sectors, s1 is a playroom and s2 is hell on earth, i wish there was something between

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Wednesday, April 27th 2016, 3:01pm

Bluescarlet

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agree s2 is freeloot already :/ wish there would be a challenge or something

but with next big patch they will even nerv astral and make it more easy again -.- i want an astral which NOT everyone is able to do dammit

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Wednesday, April 27th 2016, 4:05pm

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