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Time is not a factor any developer will neglect. Time often leads to money, and everyone knows the shopkeeper mentality: trying to keep potential customers within their store for as long as possible, even if they're just having a casual browse with no intent to pay. The longer you keep them in store, the more likely you are to buy something in the end, even just for the hell of it. The same can (and usually does) apply to FTP gaming.
No, it's not how it works, given my post was a generic, non-my.com specific comment about gaming @ shopkeep mentality, highlighting that (free or otherwise), players time is more valuable than people give credit for, and one of many factors that warrant dev consideration when it comes to their business. It was in response to:Well, if this is how it works, mail.ru/my.com are not very good at it.
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the value of your time is questionable. If I were a shareholder or a developer or anything related to Allods, I'd rather take home money than your time.
If you are referring to this side of the coin, we are very aware how the rest of the world isn't Russia, yet it's no less a RU based game, managed by RU, from within RU. It is no secret we here on this side of the EU pond are not in full control, though we do 'tweak' where we can. What is and isn't wrong with 7.X is a topic for elsewhere.Quoted
my.com doesn't freakin' realize that the rest of the world is not Russia.
This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Mhuldoon" (Jul 29th 2016, 3:13pm)
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such an extreme devaluation would most likely lead to many existing players leaving the game as the message would be "your stuff has been oficially made worthless"...
OMG when i read some shit here i ask me really whats going on with some here !!!!
The problem is simple, if 1 makes WauWau then makes everyone else too! You just have no endurance! Then you'd rather go on private servers (as you now again looks) give your money there for a few weeks out! And I saw many names there then advertise even embarrassingly under other names on the Official servers, which I find really embarrassing how low some are dropped and you want to love Allods and tell me that the F2p is too expensive? or fnde other excuse for not playing on p2p ??
Now you are allowed to you again about my upset english, but your hypocritical fuss is unbearable sometimes !!!you say im a bitch , but i say whats going on p2p and some close the Eyes . and i play now 2 1/2 years every day i online and when i see some people with the big mouth brrrrrrrrr you have realy nothing to do ...... sorry for my bad words but this is the truth
This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Hiren" (Jul 31st 2016, 3:06pm)
battlemounts still have their value due to unique abilities and also they are not devaluated but there has come something better
in analogy, for runes this would mean bringing level 14 and level 15 runes, not throwing out lower level runes far too cheap
the starterpack with full level 5 runes is already a generous gift due to its low price
on the other hand - crystal-chip sales like we had them before would be a welcome thing! this would not bring devaluation but the option to have a discount for those who are patient, like we had it earlier
Hren you can say that it's useless to be "standing around in my high-end stuff on a deserted server.", but to me it's as useless as being in a crowded server in which everyone is pretty much at the same lvl, because there is p2p for that, and because if the best strategy in an mmo is to wait and wait and wait untill everything is super easy to get, i don't see the point of playing it...
Most of you will agree (i suppose) that the main goal of the majority of mmo's players is to get more and more items that increase the power of our char. But if everyone can get these it wont workneither because yes you'll be strong, but not strongER than the other players.
That's why even if i also think prices of the cs are way too hight, it's too late to ask to my.com/allods team to lower them, because it would make the veteran rage ("why can anew player get this for such a cheap price when i've paid it for a lot more expensive one = unfair) and it would screw up completely this main purpose of an mmo (being stronger than others)
Let's imagine 2 players with exactly the same "knowledge of mmo's", amount of free time/money to invest into th game. Player n1 has started to play one year before player n2; to me player n2 mUST need one year to reach the same lvl of char-improvement than player n1, that's all.
And so yes, according to this way of thinking, the player that plays/pay the most has the most ressources, so to be the best in an mmo the best thing to do is to start at the very begining (and that's why AOP and i rage not to have known about allods earlier)
This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "Hiren" (Jul 31st 2016, 3:53pm)
fixed i see a lot of players doing it this way or similar and know some of them, but usually ppl with this mentality do not bother posting on the forum as they rather farm or play than read & write hereAOP & Freestile are pretty mucht the only ones ON THE FORUM asking for that, holding on to the "advantage" they get from CS while they admit they don't gear up
there is a huge difference between making a flashsale or putting a permanent discountI highlighted the part I don't exactly understand. If sales like that would not devalue the runes, then why would the lower crystal costs devalue it? After all the results are the same, one of them is just a permanent solution rather than a randomly occurring event.
average "lifespan" of these games is a few weeks, then most ppl lose interest and play the next...minecraft is the only exception that comes to my mind here (not to mention these games usually also can be played completely free as on the internet things tend to be available for free)(keep in mind, the average price of an AAA game ranges around €50-70, which after a couple months tend to drop to €30-40)
This post has been edited 3 times, last edit by "ALLODS-ONLINE-PLAYER" (Aug 1st 2016, 6:03am)
fixed i see a lot of players doing it this way or similar and know some of them, but usually ppl with this mentality do not bother posting on the forum as they rather farm or play than read & write hereAOP & Freestile are pretty mucht the only ones ON THE FORUM asking for that, holding on to the "advantage" they get from CS while they admit they don't gear up
there is a huge difference between making a flashsale or putting a permanent discountI highlighted the part I don't exactly understand. If sales like that would not devalue the runes, then why would the lower crystal costs devalue it? After all the results are the same, one of them is just a permanent solution rather than a randomly occurring event.
why? because a lot of ppl are impatient!
the impatient ones are usually not willing to wait 1/2 year for a sale and rather pay more, however they cant blame the seller in this case as they would just have to wait, so its totally their decision
for the company on the other side its interesting as it will make many ppl spend $ because they feel like "do it now or you miss it" (these also dont want to wait 1/2 year)
i think its a very diplomatic and clever way to offer things cheap but seldom, so ppl HAVE the chance of profiting - while keeping in mind: even though you offer it, many wont accept your generous discount offer and in the end pay the full price
--> its the same with "free to play" in general... how many players resist and do not get ingame goods with $? how many players REALLY accept the offered deal of "you can play completely free but still get EVERYTHING just for playing, time is all that matters"?
this way you completely put the decision to the players -
in the end, they pay only for having things faster; payment gives those without much time to play a chance to be not steamrolled by hardcorefarmers
imagine this game would have no $ option and goldfarming would be the ONLY way of obtaining things.... farmers would be the strongest players (and due to the nature of things, those who pay farmers for their services, lol)
if you dont want to be a farmer or donator dont wonder when there are stronger players - one more time: this is a progressive game
...when i was younger and 1st learned of the "free to play" businessmodel i honestly thought this model would disappear very soon again as i really could not believe ppl would ever pay for something they can get for free so according to my logic this theoretically should have been a financial desaster... but i was so wrong... we see free to play as a VERY successful businessmodel... just look at the publicated data from companies if you care.... its still incredible for me...
lower crystal costs would not be something new as allods (at least the server i came from) had crystalchip-flashsales from time to time (CC + 10 Respec-Strongboxes)
i totally dont undestand why this kind of sale was removed, same with the bank-deposit item
average "lifespan" of these games is a few weeks, then most ppl lose interest and play the next...minecraft is the only exception that comes to my mind here (not to mention these games usually also can be played completely free as on the internet things tend to be available for free)(keep in mind, the average price of an AAA game ranges around €50-70, which after a couple months tend to drop to €30-40)
allods however is constantly getting support & updates, so many improvements and new things, it seems to be run with love, at least to me it seems this game is not driven by pure economical interests
players thank it with sticking with this game for many years, many even every day
my verdict after playing for over 4 years: this game is really worth making a donation if you can afford it and have no ultra-strict principles regarding online-payment
This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "dragonsvk8" (Aug 1st 2016, 10:29am)
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