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Quoted from "Elvespresley"

PvP Build experiment no 1..

Still couldnt get the DC ruby.
Prolly ill make the healing rubies 9% again after i got that.

But im open for suggestions...

it looks good enuf but since u lacking some rubies I would take only r2 toxic weakness and r2 call of the grave for some more def stuff but yeah this just depends on ur playstyle if u prefer to be more aoe dependant with slightly better survival or do bit more single target dps

Quoted from "Elvespresley"

Quoted from "dragonsvk8"

I would take only r2 toxic weakness and r2 call of the grave for some more def

Since i sent this message im trying different builds over and over.
Spent almost all night in bg.
For example, as u said i tried r2 toxic weakness and r2 healing shield. But the problem is i couldnt see any difference between r1 and r2!
And call of the grave rubies. After i found a working dps metter i noticed that no matter how i change stats or gears or etc, my crit chance is still less than 20%! So i tought its good to have at least one strong instant skill.

But as i said at the begining im open for suggestions. Lets say i took r2 cotg and r2tw. Where would u advice to put those two rubies?
R3 Healing shield for example? Or r3 insidous touch again? Or Advance Genetics? I know u love those rubies..

Well imo Insideous touch rubies are the only ones not worth it when you are lacking rubies..even I rather take advanced genetics over it in wh/df build (I take both r3 domi builds tho for most possible support for group ) but since u dont have fod (?) I would go for pom cd reduce..one of the reasons is that with this gear we have atm 9% more heal isnt that much benefical since you should be able heal easier than before patch coz we havent ppl who are using any anger stats right now.
PoM is also undispellable hot not like DR which can be dispelled by any random geared bard/mage so atleast 8 second cd decrease on this imba hot will be really helpful. I just simply cant skip that one since its too op
Healing shield is discussable but I would try to not skip it either since with it you dont need to waste 3 bloods on recasting aegis that often but if so I would take it atleast r2
Theres also option to totally skip cotg rubies as I do it in my domi build for best survival if you really feel ok with it but I cant live with 10 sec howl cd in random bgs since its irritating me too hard when theres no ppl to heal meanwhile waiting for cd
Lately Im taking only r1 necropotency too and dont see any difference from r2 so you might reconsider this.
I also saw you took only r2 Virulence which is a bit wasted since you are supposed to mostly take it for the 5th PoM tick and that one happens only with r3.
Endless thirst is quite good combo without Cotg rubies since you depend on full aoe otherwise I wouldnt take it r3

When I sum this up theres more than enough choices and after you read this I guess you know which rubies are the most important and which ones are possible to be fully skipped or by some ranks atleast, hope I helped

Quoted from "Elvespresley"

First want to say thank you for ur time and advices.

I will consider all ur ideas especially about PoM/Virulence balance, necro and healing shield.
The problem is i always trust DR too much..

Anyway, ill send the new build tonight.
Hope u can have a look at it and can write ur ideas.

Thx again...

btw one thing I forgot to tell..Im still testing bloodlust rubies but so far they seem to heal very low so you might also consider taking something else instead of them and np btw

remove Donor Virus rubies aka bloodlust, remove healing rubies, get healing shield and at least r2 dark pact

Quoted from "Elvespresley"

Well, here is the new build.

DC ruby will go to Toxic Weakness r3 (hope soon..
Btw, i decided to give one more chance to Donor Virus rubies. Cause i really couldnt understand! It looks sometimes works but sometimes waste of ruby...

it heals too low to waste 3 rubies in it and as i said in other thread theres more useful stuff to take instead of it just check the explanations i posted here btw why did u skip wf ? its nice to have it r1 atleast for passive blood income

Quoted from "Elvespresley"

Its like this atm..

You probably forgot to put rubies in frightful presence and empowered infections - or link to the build is broken.
In my opinion taking blood flow rubies and not taking wf is a waste of 3 rubies

I'll try going with that build- I have to see if withering touch will be enough to trigger decomposition fast enough.

Quoted from "The Dr."

Bloodlust rubies kinda eh, blood flow also kinda eh, summoning mastery is handy for PvP bc of the omg kill the lurker people, the fear CD rubies are nice but with how many bards that run ballade also feels somewhat wasteful atm the stam and faith could be helpful havnt double checked them this patch though; r3 necropotency very handy as well mm too late for me to continue commenting

everything you said is wrong except the bloodlust rubies

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Stam and Faith rubies gives 500mana at r3. Cant waste 2 more rubies for that. Tbh the only reason i took that r1 cause its the only way to reach hod without summon soul.

When you take Summon soul you can save 1 more ruby by taking blood bank on place next to of Endless thirst and Reanimator just saying

Quoted from "Elvespresley"

Quoted from "Modliszka"

You probably forgot to put rubies in frightful presence and empowered infections - or link to the build is broken.
In my opinion taking blood flow rubies and not taking wf is a waste of 3 rubies

I'll try going with that build- I have to see if withering touch will be enough to trigger decomposition fast enough.

Yep, it fixed now.
Like Draci's said its all about gaming style at the end.
For example me, i cant even imagine to play without immunodefiency. Its the only skill which i can kill healers around 50% health. With a lucky shot ofc.
I know its waste of blood playing without wf but still blood flow rubies help with life tap. Life tap cd almost less than 5 sec. every other 2 HoD makes Life tap abailable. Also keeps blood aegis at the max according to healing shield.
Beside, as a said mana pool and ppl are dying too fast for now. After 4 or 5 tick of wf u need to spend another 1500 mana.

I had some talk with Blacktoast yday about Withering touch r2-r3 in pvp..I would say that it is possible to play with r2 but in the end I still decided to take it r3 for maximum potential to spread dots instead of being very unlucky and not spreading it from like 3rd-4th neurotoxin tick.