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Hello guys,

even if stats have changed for this update, nothing else fundamental have changed, so I decided to keep most of the hybrid PVE build I played so far:
http://pts.allodswiki.ru/calc#!5!333.2.3…C!ycbtb/OMYWWHB

The philosophy is quite simple : do as much DPS as possible, and even more than other classes. This works pretty well in single target; but for sure, we cannot be compared to demo, war, mage or bard in multi targets. But still, the bear strike is really a nice AOE.
I don't really care about making balm, they are so useless since we can craft them with alchemy even faster.

The bad news with this 5.0, is that our DPS has been a bit nerf, especially Clout; but our single target DPS can still be compared to other classes. I hope that 5.1 will up us again

Here is my rotation :

Depending on the party, I remove rubis on ferocity to put them in the renew rubis.

At update 4.0.4, I made a lot of tests using most common builds in order to find which one gave the optimal DPS:

#1- 2h hybrid build (mine)
http://pts.allodswiki.ru/calc#!5!333.2.3…C!ycbtb/OMYWWHB

#2- Claw hybrid build (using the same rotation as mine)
http://pts.allodswiki.ru/calc#!5!333.2.3…C!ycbtb/OMYWWHB

#3- Claw melee build (using Netzach's rotation)
http://pts.allodswiki.ru/calc#!5!333.3.3…C!ycbtb/OMYWWHB

#4- "Classical" Magic build
http://pts.allodswiki.ru/calc#!5!333...3…D!ycbtb/OMYWWHB

#5- 2h melee build
http://pts.allodswiki.ru/calc#!5!333...3…C!ycbtb/OMYWWHB

Here are my conclusions:

• #1: with 2h mace or spear gives the best DPS in both single & multi targets (a little preference for the spear).
  
• #2: with claws. The gameplay is pretty much the same than #1, but the DPS is little bit less in single target and drop down in multi. I think the problem come from Cloud's CD which is 4 sec when having combo rubis, it delays my rotation, but not sure.
• #3: pretty fun, don't have any cast. But, the tiger strike does really low damages and can't be compared to whirlwind + firebolt damages from the 2 first builds.
• #4: well known build. It works but damages are lower than 2 first builds. The fact is that in term of pure damage : [ whirlwind + clout (+ loaded weapon) + firebolt ] > [ whirlwind + whirlwind + firebolt ].
  
• #5: cannot work at all since clout and falcon strike share the same CD. Even with rubis to decrease falcon CD. Falcon will never does the same DPS as whirlwind + firebolt

So if I had to make a comparison, I'd say somehting like:

Yeah, with this build / rotation, I can exploit all benefits of every skills I use.
The only negative point I saw is that I burn mana as hell ! Probably the most mana consuming build (especially in AOE) all classes / builds taken in account xD

Old endurance rubis now decrease the rate of critical hit you receive. It's not a stat anymore.

For the determination, look at your pet during battles, you will see that your pet has its own determination bar. Since he's at melee range and so do I, we take damages (even if I try to take as less as possible) so our determination bar is not at 0.
That's why I take those rubis.

And Morte is really nice for PVP, it's like you put -50% incoming healing on your target, priceless to finish him

Full caster builds are not so bad. They cost less rubis and so you can take off-heal rubis.
But in terms of DPS there is a real gap between caster build and hybrid build

Well, before 5.0, I would say definitively yes, they worth it! Because Clout and Bear strike were really powerful.
Now with the chance rate nerf, I can admit that they give lower bonus. So if you want to save 4 rubis, you may choose something else

Those two 1h rubis are useless for me, but it's the shortest way to take "Natural cruauty" (critical damage bonus) rubis behind.

One part of the job when you play an hybrid build is to know the strategy for each mob. It's somehow exiting because unlike caster where you put your ass far from the mobs and just spam your skills, here you are constantly in movement (forward or backward), the placement is really important and hybrid builds allow you to hit in any circonstance: melee or distance (but you do more damage with clout).

So I would say: yes, sometimes you can't approach the mobs or the boss and it's quite frustrating. But most of time, mobs are doing frontal AOE, or you can predict few seconds earlier when they will do their big AOE (for example they targetting themself).
You can also speak with your tank, normally if he's not too bad, he knows whether it's risky or not.

About the PMB, I won't participate this time. I already did last time and nothing really changed since 4.0.3 except the statistics (even if I really want the wings ).
Anyway, you can find my old participation (in french) here: http://pimpmyresha.weebly.com/
Moreover I find the warden too much bugged since 5.0: the pet is completely drunk, he has high latency and I really don't like it.
Maybe if there is another PMB for 5.0.1, with Warden's overhaul I will have a lot to say

I didn't test damages of howl of death in pve, but the fear is good in pvp. Personnaly, as I play in melee range I took the charge of paladin to get closer fast. Maybe at the next update cleric's shield or the self heal (don't know the name in english ) will be good for healer build.