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With the current standing of this game the primary method of getting amalgam to gear up leaves anyone who didn't have the best gear possible before the patch unable to get the amalgam needed to make the gear they need to get amalgam. Here is my rather warped idea to balance PVP so there will be more competition in skirmishes and players can get the amalgam they need to improve their gear.

Make the reward from skirmishes inversely based on your gear. This means that people with crap gear(green astral and 55 green glyphs) get more amalgam than those with good gear(Leggy/myth gear and 56 myth glyphs). Someone in minimum gear in a land slide loss would get as much amalgam as the top geared players on the winning team.

To prevent abuse when you enter a skirmish your gear is locked so you can't strip to get more at the end or strip to get a lower gear score at the start then suit up.

This could make skirmishes much more interesting as the players who are currently untouchable due to their gear and shutting everyone else out of skirmishes will end up needing to cut their power to get better rewards and end up leveling the field.

So you think having everyone relatively close in gear so actual skill and luck becomes important in PVP would make things boring? I guess your one of the people who finds killing the mobs in your faction's newbie area while level 60 exiting.

Most people find walking around killing everything with ease boring. Questions of will I win or lose the fight bring exitment to the fight in a way that having a 100% chance at winning can never do.

I'm not new and I have seen over the patches that they have never gotten a balancing system to work in the skirmishes. They have said that a system to balance would be added but that ended up being Scarlet Bastion which put the 6 best geared on 1 team and everyone else on the other.

Currently you often see 2 people on 1 team that are able to completely control the map and shut down the other team including the high geared players you say are on it. The result between 1 and 25 drops of pure.

JC is a joke. IF everything goes well and you can drill your full load and finish the race you get 1.5 amalgam per day. That isn't likely to happen though since the people I mentioned as completely dominating WH and DF go into JC and do the exact same thing durring the hunt and stop members of the other faction from finishing the race so your not likely to get even 1 amalgam.

Unless you have good gear that alchemy quest will kick your ass. Your probably thinking that it only takes about 30 min with no problems because your assuming everyone in this game has FULL 56 GLYPHS like you. They don't. New players start out with no glyphs and no gear. It needs to be farmed and powered up over time which requires amalgam.

Here is a suggestion you will like even less. Force balancing on the skirmishes by buffing or nerfing everyone's gear to an average power level. This will make the leaching your complaining about impossible and prevent 2-3 players from carrying the full team. This will make your uber gear worthless in PVP because it is reduced to the average.

Another suggestion you will hate. Remove amalgam completely from the game so you just take your upgraders, gold, and gear to the smith and get the same value as using amalgam. This will result in the skirmishes popping a lot less because people will not need to do them to get the gear needed to play the game.

Quoted from "Biromir"

The main issue I have with the suggestion is... that it doesn't reward winning. The more advanced you are, the more rewarding the game should be. That is basic winning state stuff. Why advance in a game, if you will get less rewards for doing so? Allods focuses on the reverse quite a lot - it rewards destroying the enemy. Completely demolishing the enemy team is always massively rewarding. 3 capping in WH is 4 times as rewarding as 2 capping, and on top of that, if you 3 cap early, you get more amals and symbols of victory for much, much less time invested. That is how a game should reward in a competitive environment.

There is nothing stopping people with 19k gearscore from queuing and doing skirmishes and getting amalgam. Yes, they will be just punching bags for the geared, but they will get their reward. I started 5.0 without even green glyphs and I get more amalgam than I need for my gear every week.

Amalgam is on the AH, people can farm gold and buy it if they wanted.

My original suggestion didn't say people with max gear don't get anything for winning. It is that they need to win to get a worth while amount while someone just starting out would be able to do some upgrades even if their butts are kicked every single round.

For someone who isn't well geared if you spend all day every day in skirmishes you can get some amalgam you can farm some amalgam to upgrade with(a few drops per match). However you will not have time left to farm the loot converters or go to astral to get the upgraders and gold needed for the other side of the process.

As something to add to the skirmishes for those who need to dominate if either of my suggestions were used. Add weekly leader boards showing their domination in skirmishes. This will let them show their epeen without making it so everyone else is unable to gear up and compete with them. Players who are truly interested in PVP actually like competition so more competition would make the game better.