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Quoted from "Thismaywork"

I see a certain game that just came out is under investigation in the US and EU for potential illegal gambling. I wonder what that could hold in store for Allods?

Quoted from "Mr Barett"

Quoted from "Thismaywork"

I see a certain game that just came out is under investigation in the US and EU for potential illegal gambling. I wonder what that could hold in store for Allods?

nothing at all, everything in Allods is ingame stuff that u gamble for with a box, there are THOUSANDS of games with the exact same system as long as there is no REAL money gains for us consumers then no laws are broken, also Allods states clearly that trading items for real money is against their eterms of service(that you agree upon every week at patch day) your items are property of Allods

Quoted from "ALLODS-ONLINE-PLAYER"

since every box is a win its no gambling in a jurisdictional view

Quoted from "VegaX"

Quoted from "ALLODS-ONLINE-PLAYER"

since every box is a win its no gambling in a jurisdictional view

I don't think you understand what gambling is lol
You don't gamble to get small rewards, you gamble for the high price items
You spend 100 euros and bet with yourself that you're gonna get the money's worth back
You gamble on prophetic cards also, especially people who don't spend more than 10-20 euros during those events.
You gamble 10 euros to get a mount reward for example, and instead you receive mirrha, costumes and carnival masks that you don't care about.

It's all about what reward you want and what rewards you receive.

And well, Allods is lucky that it's insignificant in the gaming industry and nobody really talks about it on the internet, so don't worry about investigations

Quoted from "VegaX"

Quoted from "ALLODS-ONLINE-PLAYER"

since every box is a win its no gambling in a jurisdictional view

I don't think you understand what gambling is lol
You don't gamble to get small rewards, you gamble for the high price items
You spend 100 euros and bet with yourself that you're gonna get the money's worth back
You gamble on prophetic cards also, especially people who don't spend more than 10-20 euros during those events.
You gamble 10 euros to get a mount reward for example, and instead you receive mirrha, costumes and carnival masks that you don't care about.

It's all about what reward you want and what rewards you receive.

And well, Allods is lucky that it's insignificant in the gaming industry and nobody really talks about it on the internet, so don't worry about investigations

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Strongbox jest teraz uważany za hazard w Holandii
A recent ruling by the Dutch gambling commission has decided that any "lootcrates" from which you can win tradeable items are now considered to be "gambling".

Quoted from "PunisherSy"

Well the mosaic is 100% gambling,

But are the prophetic cards and strongboxes gambling as well ? I really wonder,

-For me when I open prophetic cards I mostly get more crystal chip that what I've actually invested in not to mention the mount costumes and elixirs that you get.
-While for strongboxes its a bit more obvious, but its not 100% gambling, there is always the Coin that you get also the thing you may get in the chest, and the daily lottery.

and as I remember in math the Mathematical expectation of Random variable of the gambling games should be less than 1, so the winning chance are less than the losing chance and that's how casinos get money, but what about those semi-gambling oriented stuff in the game? most of the people get more than they spend in the end (ofc talking about opening a decent amount not 2,3 boxes or compasses). the game get its revenue from the p2w system not the loot boxes system(ofc boxes and other event encourage people to invest more in the game).

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"The study revealed that four of the ten loot boxes that were studied contravene the law. The reason is that the content of these loot boxes is determined by chance and that the prizes to be won can be traded outside of the game: the prizes have a market value," the report says. "Offering these types of games of chance to Dutch consumers without a license is prohibited."

Quoted from "Gladia"

Hello,

In the PCgamer link, they explain that it concerns items that can be traded for real money:

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"The study revealed that four of the ten loot boxes that were studied contravene the law. The reason is that the content of these loot boxes is determined by chance and that the prizes to be won can be traded outside of the game: the prizes have a market value," the report says. "Offering these types of games of chance to Dutch consumers without a license is prohibited."

As MrBarett explained in one of the first messages posted on that topic, that kind of trading (for real money etc.) is forbidden in Allods Online:
https://allods.my.com/en/game/forum-rules/generalingamerules

Let's see what will happen anyway .