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This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "kite64" (May 19th 2014, 8:33pm)
This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "reeah19" (May 17th 2014, 11:54pm)
that build does big single target damage, vamp can be casted very fast but eats alot of mana, i used mana and restoration pots tho and is fine, got only blue staff atm
previous patch having 52 myth staff had no mana problems btw, till leggy is a bit annoying for astral/welle, for lvling you wont have problems tho
pom fully heals me while mobbing like crazy, dark renewal does around 20-40k per tick, renimation depends on how low is the hp but with like 3 of em im full hp, lvl 7 attack runes and pat 5 so u can make an idea
oh and in welle i can heal while farming epic refractors, in forlon (epic refr) if i use that as support heal i do like half of how much healer does
dont listen to dragon he quited haha
This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "kite64" (May 18th 2014, 1:18am)
aoe was always good for summy since is spammable
its more mana consuming than acid but u can pull 10-15 mobs w.o problem in umoir for example (they dont have crazy debuffs like koe), and mana regen its enough since ull alwaya get last hit, but for astral ull need pots
as healing you basicly cant die cuz u always have blood and u can heal, as acid you dont have enough blood thats why i gave up on it
http://en.allodswiki.ru/calc/#!4!133...3…E!wozuwu/AUEPDV
or...
http://en.allodswiki.ru/calc/#!4!133...3…E!wozuwu/AUEPDV
guess 2nd is better for farming because your pet wont die, in astral it dies alot theat why i took it in 1t build
This post has been edited 3 times, last edit by "kite64" (May 18th 2014, 3:36am)
Dont listen to me ? I quit few weeks ago but I still have 3 year experience on summoner and you cant take it from me.that build does big single target damage, vamp can be casted very fast but eats alot of mana, i used mana and restoration pots tho and is fine, got only blue staff atm
previous patch having 52 myth staff had no mana problems btw, till leggy is a bit annoying for astral/welle, for lvling you wont have problems tho
pom fully heals me while mobbing like crazy, dark renewal does around 20-40k per tick, renimation depends on how low is the hp but with like 3 of em im full hp, lvl 7 attack runes and pat 5 so u can make an idea
oh and in welle i can heal while farming epic refractors, in forlon (epic refr) if i use that as support heal i do like half of how much healer does
dont listen to dragon he quited haha
Dont listen to me ? I quit few weeks ago but I still have 3 year experience on summoner and you cant take it from me.that build does big single target damage, vamp can be casted very fast but eats alot of mana, i used mana and restoration pots tho and is fine, got only blue staff atm
previous patch having 52 myth staff had no mana problems btw, till leggy is a bit annoying for astral/welle, for lvling you wont have problems tho
pom fully heals me while mobbing like crazy, dark renewal does around 20-40k per tick, renimation depends on how low is the hp but with like 3 of em im full hp, lvl 7 attack runes and pat 5 so u can make an idea
oh and in welle i can heal while farming epic refractors, in forlon (epic refr) if i use that as support heal i do like half of how much healer does
dont listen to dragon he quited haha
"Build does big single target damage" being last in dps meter while healing 1/4 of your fh in party isnt very big..I guess you never played acid/vamp hybrid then. Let the healers do their job or spec fh or play full dps only since trying to go mid way wont get you anywhere.
This build is only useful for leveling/solo farming random mobs and thats it, I wouldnt ever take any1 with this build to astral/raid.
so if something is negative it means its wrong..ok whatever if u want to keep the build which is for casuals then be it and hf with itDont listen to me ? I quit few weeks ago but I still have 3 year experience on summoner and you cant take it from me.that build does big single target damage, vamp can be casted very fast but eats alot of mana, i used mana and restoration pots tho and is fine, got only blue staff atm
previous patch having 52 myth staff had no mana problems btw, till leggy is a bit annoying for astral/welle, for lvling you wont have problems tho
pom fully heals me while mobbing like crazy, dark renewal does around 20-40k per tick, renimation depends on how low is the hp but with like 3 of em im full hp, lvl 7 attack runes and pat 5 so u can make an idea
oh and in welle i can heal while farming epic refractors, in forlon (epic refr) if i use that as support heal i do like half of how much healer does
dont listen to dragon he quited haha
"Build does big single target damage" being last in dps meter while healing 1/4 of your fh in party isnt very big..I guess you never played acid/vamp hybrid then. Let the healers do their job or spec fh or play full dps only since trying to go mid way wont get you anywhere.
This build is only useful for leveling/solo farming random mobs and thats it, I wouldnt ever take any1 with this build to astral/raid.
well i decided not to listen to you cause all you've ever said in your past posts on summoner topics have been negative. i'm liking the build i can finally hold 3+ mobs on me at once with out dieing. i hardly ever raid and as reeah said its useful for off healing if your group needs more help. granted i need more rubies and talent points but from what i currently have i'm enjoying way more then i ever did acid because pulling one mob at a time is annoying and slow.
so if something is negative it means its wrong..ok whatever if u want to keep the build which is for casuals then be it and hf with itDont listen to me ? I quit few weeks ago but I still have 3 year experience on summoner and you cant take it from me.that build does big single target damage, vamp can be casted very fast but eats alot of mana, i used mana and restoration pots tho and is fine, got only blue staff atm
previous patch having 52 myth staff had no mana problems btw, till leggy is a bit annoying for astral/welle, for lvling you wont have problems tho
pom fully heals me while mobbing like crazy, dark renewal does around 20-40k per tick, renimation depends on how low is the hp but with like 3 of em im full hp, lvl 7 attack runes and pat 5 so u can make an idea
oh and in welle i can heal while farming epic refractors, in forlon (epic refr) if i use that as support heal i do like half of how much healer does
dont listen to dragon he quited haha
"Build does big single target damage" being last in dps meter while healing 1/4 of your fh in party isnt very big..I guess you never played acid/vamp hybrid then. Let the healers do their job or spec fh or play full dps only since trying to go mid way wont get you anywhere.
This build is only useful for leveling/solo farming random mobs and thats it, I wouldnt ever take any1 with this build to astral/raid.
well i decided not to listen to you cause all you've ever said in your past posts on summoner topics have been negative. i'm liking the build i can finally hold 3+ mobs on me at once with out dieing. i hardly ever raid and as reeah said its useful for off healing if your group needs more help. granted i need more rubies and talent points but from what i currently have i'm enjoying way more then i ever did acid because pulling one mob at a time is annoying and slow.
He's talking about raid viability of his dps builds/sugestions. Youre' talking about trash pulls in green farming areas. There's a difference.so if something is negative it means its wrong..ok whatever if u want to keep the build which is for casuals then be it and hf with itDont listen to me ? I quit few weeks ago but I still have 3 year experience on summoner and you cant take it from me.that build does big single target damage, vamp can be casted very fast but eats alot of mana, i used mana and restoration pots tho and is fine, got only blue staff atm
previous patch having 52 myth staff had no mana problems btw, till leggy is a bit annoying for astral/welle, for lvling you wont have problems tho
pom fully heals me while mobbing like crazy, dark renewal does around 20-40k per tick, renimation depends on how low is the hp but with like 3 of em im full hp, lvl 7 attack runes and pat 5 so u can make an idea
oh and in welle i can heal while farming epic refractors, in forlon (epic refr) if i use that as support heal i do like half of how much healer does
dont listen to dragon he quited haha
"Build does big single target damage" being last in dps meter while healing 1/4 of your fh in party isnt very big..I guess you never played acid/vamp hybrid then. Let the healers do their job or spec fh or play full dps only since trying to go mid way wont get you anywhere.
This build is only useful for leveling/solo farming random mobs and thats it, I wouldnt ever take any1 with this build to astral/raid.
well i decided not to listen to you cause all you've ever said in your past posts on summoner topics have been negative. i'm liking the build i can finally hold 3+ mobs on me at once with out dieing. i hardly ever raid and as reeah said its useful for off healing if your group needs more help. granted i need more rubies and talent points but from what i currently have i'm enjoying way more then i ever did acid because pulling one mob at a time is annoying and slow.
the view i have of your past posts just makes you a troll to me. so yes i'll keep my build because i can actually hold 5-6 mobs on me at once with out dieing unlike acid also i end up with full hp and full mana after those 5-6 mobs are killed unlike a acid build summoner would be if they can hold that many on them with out dieing.
you may think vamp dps is worthless but i doubt you've ever played it your just going off what others say, you may say you played a summoner for 3 years but just like everyone else you probably decided to pay for a core morph rather then sticking with the class, in welle vamp dps would be appreciated due to the fact that you could off heal as well as damage if more heals are needed even in astrals it would be useful.
i solo play alot so this build is perfect for me.
Do you even know what are you saying ? I completly LOVE summoner since ever I started to play it (and even more since 4.0.3) till when I quit the game, why do you think I made my Pimp my Build entry and quit right after (not counting the 4+ entries before) ? Because I wanted to help others with build and stuff before Im gone, and I didnt quit the game cause of the class but cause of the game itself since its dying day by day and was ruined by 5.0.0 for me, actually only thing that kept me playing was PvP with my summoner. And no I wouldnt reroll to anything else ever as you said.so if something is negative it means its wrong..ok whatever if u want to keep the build which is for casuals then be it and hf with itDont listen to me ? I quit few weeks ago but I still have 3 year experience on summoner and you cant take it from me.that build does big single target damage, vamp can be casted very fast but eats alot of mana, i used mana and restoration pots tho and is fine, got only blue staff atm
previous patch having 52 myth staff had no mana problems btw, till leggy is a bit annoying for astral/welle, for lvling you wont have problems tho
pom fully heals me while mobbing like crazy, dark renewal does around 20-40k per tick, renimation depends on how low is the hp but with like 3 of em im full hp, lvl 7 attack runes and pat 5 so u can make an idea
oh and in welle i can heal while farming epic refractors, in forlon (epic refr) if i use that as support heal i do like half of how much healer does
dont listen to dragon he quited haha
"Build does big single target damage" being last in dps meter while healing 1/4 of your fh in party isnt very big..I guess you never played acid/vamp hybrid then. Let the healers do their job or spec fh or play full dps only since trying to go mid way wont get you anywhere.
This build is only useful for leveling/solo farming random mobs and thats it, I wouldnt ever take any1 with this build to astral/raid.
well i decided not to listen to you cause all you've ever said in your past posts on summoner topics have been negative. i'm liking the build i can finally hold 3+ mobs on me at once with out dieing. i hardly ever raid and as reeah said its useful for off healing if your group needs more help. granted i need more rubies and talent points but from what i currently have i'm enjoying way more then i ever did acid because pulling one mob at a time is annoying and slow.
the view i have of your past posts just makes you a troll to me. so yes i'll keep my build because i can actually hold 5-6 mobs on me at once with out dieing unlike acid also i end up with full hp and full mana after those 5-6 mobs are killed unlike a acid build summoner would be if they can hold that many on them with out dieing.
you may think vamp dps is worthless but i doubt you've ever played it your just going off what others say, you may say you played a summoner for 3 years but just like everyone else you probably decided to pay for a core morph rather then sticking with the class, in welle vamp dps would be appreciated due to the fact that you could off heal as well as damage if more heals are needed even in astrals it would be useful.
i solo play alot so this build is perfect for me.
rather then actually being helpful and saying "there actually is one but in my opinion it isnt that great." i dont need someone like him giving me advice unlike reeah who was actually helpful.Quoted
Yes it is non existant. You will do crap single target dps and crap heal
with vamp build only time I would spec it for farming/leveling. The
build from pmb you sent ends up exactly how I described it in last
sentence.