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Do you guys actually think that merging servers is going to increase the population?! XDDDDD Hahahahaha good joke. How many merges did we get since the game launched?! Did that solve anything?! I think we know the answer to that. Even when Allods came to Steam it didn't solve much. The problem lies within the game mechanics itself!!!

• The game is not playable unless you are in a big group with buffed up gear and runes. Hence why most people leave the game. Specially solo players.
  
• Almost all skills have an insane cooldown. The cooldown is so long, that when its over you are already laying dead on the floor lol. Also the healing skills don't heal much (and I'm referring to my own class which is a druid/warden). Seriously the skills suck! They need to bring back the old skills and remove that silly cooldown for good. Cause let's be honest here, if you are fighting for your life in RL, you don't have a cooldown lol. Imagine telling your attacker to wait because your fists needs to be reloaded?! Yeah that's just stupid. XD
  
• The economy in-game is super bad! For a cheap item they ask insane amounts of gold. So they really need to change that. Maybe by removing the exchange currency NPC?!
  
• Crafting is just a casino game based on luck (actually the entire game feels like a casino, but okay). Crafting is also made impossible since the ingredients you need to farm are in locations that you must go with high gear, pumped up runes and in a group. So yeah the crafting mechanisms sucks too.
  
• Adding daily login rewards to the game. Many games do that nowadays. Why is Allods staying behind on this?!
  

So yeah the game needs a lot of maintenance if you ask me. If they fix the skills and make the content more solo player friendly, then I would guarantee that the popularity in-game will increase immediately. Specially with some good advertisements placed over the internet and some free login rewards.

Also to those complaining about popularity...why don't you guys do something to promote this game?! Cause I see a lot of you crying like little babies all over the forum, but none of you advertise the game at all. On Twitch for example, nobody streams Allods Online. Why don't you guys stream it there?! Or why don't you guys advertise in general?! XD Stop crying and do something if you really care about this game.

Nah your just casual
Use actual pmb event to correct your stats, and build

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he game is not playable unless you are in a big group with buffed up gear and runes. Hence why most people leave the game. Specially solo players.
Almost all skills have an insane cooldown. The cooldown is so long, that when its over you are already laying dead on the floor lol. Also the healing skills don't heal much (and I'm referring to my own class which is a druid/warden). Seriously the skills suck! They need to bring back the old skills and remove that silly cooldown for good. Cause let's be honest here, if you are fighting for your life in RL, you don't have a cooldown lol. Imagine telling your attacker to wait because your fists needs to be reloaded?! Yeah that's just stupid. XD

It's in 1/3 your falut cuz your casual, 1/3 is falut of game is more dynamic now, also thay made healer and support to synergy, so if you play witchout support, your like adc in lol alone in lane, no stuns, no resistents, just pure dmg and glass, any jungler or midlander can kill you, also in allods engi or bard buff your heal x2(and for 4s frame give you +100%healing) also benefit you with -30-40% incoming dmg, so if your "solo player" yeh.. healer suck, cuz your need another player to synergy
Normaly it's support who follow healer, or best dps in team if your supporter is good, but ppl are ppl, if you want be boosted, stay close to support, or follow him or you lose 1/2 of your healing
last 1/3 is falut of cs in f2p, so normaly when in p2p healer witchout support heal for 1,5x what dps do, here cs make you to heal 0,5 what casher dps do cuz of diference in cash shop

If your more solo player i recomend you switch to support role as your more tanky, have invasibility kit, escape teleport, and you got def inaf to resiste longer, compare to healer you heal for 2/3 less but you this 1/3 heal+def+buffs win you 2vs2 or 3vs3 fights

But take in mind suport role gona be nerfed soon, still be gona good, but not boosted anymore (insted of x2 dmg buff your gona give like 0,5-1x) but still def skills make diference

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Almost all skills have an insane cooldown. The cooldown is so long, that when its over you are already laying dead on the floor lol. Also the healing skills don't heal much (and I'm referring to my own class which is a druid/warden). Seriously the skills suck! They need to bring back the old skills and remove that silly cooldown for good. Cause let's be honest here, if you are fighting for your life in RL, you don't have a cooldown lol. Imagine telling your attacker to wait because your fists needs to be reloaded?! Yeah that's just stupid. XD

Nah you feel like that cuz cs in f2p, in p2p imp got good druid we need took down with 2dps, or 3 if support is close to her

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The economy in-game is super bad! For a stupid thing they ask insane amounts of gold. So they really need to change that. Maybe by removing the exchange currency NPC?!

Mostly cuz for 1 euro you geting 712500gold,
And if you only farm prob all your daily earning can be 1-3euro(more if your auction house barron)
So ppl have alot of gold, but not evryone gambling lootboxes, so thay buy thinks from ah or direcntly to avoid aution hose tax and buy thinks cheaper
Euro have too much pover compare what you can farm in game if you want compeate to player who at last pay 50 euro per month than you need tryhard xd
Person toping up for 50 euro have 35625000g budget evry month, as becose in f2p play 80% cashers thay compite toghter to get ittems thay need (cuz evry 1-2 months new cs is adding to game) Person who gambling lootbox can lose, or get his item for "free" cuz he was inaf lucy to get monay back from ah for rest what no need
Thats how economy work on f2p

In p2p you have bounted cs, so you can't sell it on ah, also cs is visual only so it's not change gameplay at all, so teoreticly you have nothink you can buy for your gold expect toys, gear from ai-rihat what is wortk 5-15k gold, but if you play in guild ppl give you gear for free, only one think for now you spending gold in p2p are stats or build reset (44k gold cost) and guild tax for hearald rank so you focusing on play insted of gathering gold evry day

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Crafting is just a casino game based on luck (actually the entire game feels like a casino, but okay). Crafting is also made impossible since the ingredients you need to farm are in locations that you must go with high gear, pumped up runes and in a group. So yeah the crafting mechanisms sucks too.
Adding daily login rewards to the game. Many games do that nowadays. Why is Allods staying behind on this?!

in p2p if your casual ther will be 3-5 ppl free to help until you get gear and you will be able to do it alone
Also even when i played on f2p i got not problem in ai-rihat or koe even when i got like 5 runes and plue scrolse, so it schold be even eazier for you in p2p as mobs here hit less

About crafting it only costing 200-250k gold to produce 1 item, so basicly i can craft 1-2 per day, more problem is dust, but it's grindable on obs eazy mode
Notice most valuable item is 90%, 85% you can drop to trash or give to friend for free
So your goal in crafting is using green color only, this way you will get item your looking for with 70-80% chance what is preaty big, never use blure or purple color in crafting after you hit 80lv (maybe only if you start with 4 blue, epic you use only if you got 50-100% exp bar full and you start with 3-4 epic collors)

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Adding daily login rewards to the game

This think is in this game from 2y, but you need do at last 1bg or island to get your daily reward

Also thers "Day witchout a gift" repitable quest chain, in f2p for compliting 5/5 you geting mirra, 90-100 stats defensive and offensive potion, and orange tears of dragagon

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The game is not playable unless you are in a big group with buffed up gear and runes. Hence why most people leave the game. Specially solo players.

this is wrong. im basically a soloplayer since 7 years and often my group was only rowdy,matron,caspar and michael. i always did fine, i even did better than some players inside a "big guild". if i can do it, everyone can. its just a matter of willpower

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this is wrong. im basically a soloplayer since 7 years and often my group was only rowdy,matron,caspar and michael. i always did fine, i even did better than some players inside a "big guild". if i can do it, everyone can. its just a matter of willpower

this is wrong, it's becose you,me or other ppl can do it, not mean evryone can, it's like chalanger and bronz/silver player in lol
You can tell it's eazy to become chalanger, but many ppl will stuck in silver or gold cuz thay make alot of mistakes or don't have your 7y knowlage
Or are just not players, but ppl who come play 1-3 times and not care to progres or notice wat mistakes thay do to progress
If you look on statistics in lol

You can notice iron-gold rank is 70-80% of game base, and you are 1% as chalanger
Like in lol, in other games thers similar situation, most players are just casuals, problem with allods is, thers not any rank for bg or skill mmr, so this bronz players are matched witch plat/daimond card+ most time and geting one shot and quitng a game, cuz who like losing 4-9 times in row

Also Allods have problem that thay lost this 70-80% base of players and in game left only ppl with platinum card+ or ppl naturally skilled, or both becose rest are on "vacations"

Casuals got free epics scrols, armor shells, dog mount, runes 6-7, and big disscount for pa5 but diference is still too big thay need face better skilled players cuz thay play 5-7y and cashshop

Good solution culd be if you join bg or 3x3/6x6 your gear and cs no matter, and cs you can use only in dominium/open world, also if you kill someone in open world you culd get 50-100 fate elixirs or other reward

If you was on 3x3 turrnament server, you culd notice how many ppl just came to fight 3x3 before turrnament start, but in allods f2p, only hights cs ppl join ther, or ppl who trade for spark exp cuz thay know thay have no chance

Or you just go p2p server and all problems gone

i would be clear , i hesitated too much before putting this answer but , Meia thread was clear, he was talking about the general population either in the server f2p or p2p.

But what i do not understand, why Noah try to recruit each player from f2p to p2p by telling him his universal sentence:Or you just go p2p server and all problems gone.

If you want to recruit players to your p2p just go in forums of Lol, wow, overwatch, paladins and spam them like you do here



In the finale I must say: when the wise man shows the moon the idiot looks at the finger. So please find a way to save the GAME and not save your P2P server.

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But what i do not understand, why Noah try to recruit each player from f2p to p2p by telling him his universal sentence:Or you just go p2p server and all problems gone.

Cuz it work, some ppl giving a try and 70-80% of them stay for longer

If player don't like f2p and his is about to quit, why schold he quit witchout knowing about p2p?

I not forincg anyone to come p2p, just showing the diference this server offer, so player who wuld like try back, will not have fealing of "uhhh p2w no way i will back "

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In the finale I must say: when the wise man shows the moon the idiot looks at the finger. So please find a way to save the GAME and not save your P2P server.

“Understanding is the first step to acceptance, and only with acceptance can there be recovery.”
“A vision without a strategy remains an illusion.”

Ofc merge culd be nice for p2p too, but understending ther is option to vote with your wallet to push game in to visual cash shop only insted of new pover level item evry 1-2 months can bring many peaople back to game in my opinion wher in current state inaf just 20-50ppl more to pop bg ofthen on p2p, than another 50-100 ppl will come cuz thay will can't say server is half empty anymore...

In f2p you can't do much right now, only wait until "Merge" maybe come
In p2p you can build community and have fun right now witchout all that negatives ppl all time pointing >_<

Thay will merge servers eventualy faster, or thay will invest time to make visual cash shop items and thay gona start profit on 1k ppl with 10 euro insted of 100 with 100 euro
This is my strategy, what you can do for f2p insted of waiting infinity for merge, ask yourself why i mentioning p2p most time?

P2P is bad

Are you guys Happy with the no contest in domi/3v3/6v6? the fk. We face same parties over and over every damn Domi/3v3/6v6 its getting boring. A merge would mean Variety of challenges cuz so many more parties are doing stuff making game more Interesting, this is a Big issue and reason why ALOT of ppl have gone on "Vacation" like the CM´s call it.

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Are you guys Happy with the no contest in domi/3v3/6v6? the fk.

Ofc it's bored when you win evry domi/3vs3/6vs6 cuz of cash diference
In p2p you actuali need fight for your win
Boths sides are equal in pover, so even if you fights same 2 pt, outcome is diference evry time
+ fights taking longer and are more fair

But i understend f2p ppl too, thay prefer pay insted of play, or grind for 2/3 of day cuz not time for play or thay just like be shiny, thats why i mentioning p2p for ppl who don't want to do this, or are frustrated to even coming for bg, 3vs3, 6vss6, cuz thay hit someone for 200-300dmg, when enemy player do 18k+35k hit
Ofc ther will be ppl who like f2p model and p2p will be bad for them, but for many not.

cash diff? we have won most stuff and im less cs than most in the "good groups"

You can also take Brino as example, he is a PURE F2P player, never spent a dime, he just knows HOW to get money and shit, u cant blame it on "oh but you have more cs" when ppl have 11´s and almost full cs as a F2P player.

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this is wrong. im basically a soloplayer since 7 years and often my group was only rowdy,matron,caspar and michael. i always did fine, i even did better than some players inside a "big guild". if i can do it, everyone can. its just a matter of willpower

this is wrong, it's becose you,me or other ppl can do it, not mean evryone can, it's like chalanger and bronz/silver player in lol
You can tell it's eazy to become chalanger, but many ppl will stuck in silver or gold cuz thay make alot of mistakes or don't have your 7y knowlage
Or are just not players, but ppl who come play 1-3 times and not care to progres or notice wat mistakes thay do to progress
If you look on statistics in lol

You can notice iron-gold rank is 70-80% of game base, and you are 1% as chalanger
Like in lol, in other games thers similar situation, most players are just casuals, problem with allods is, thers not any rank for bg or skill mmr, so this bronz players are matched witch plat/daimond card+ most time and geting one shot and quitng a game, cuz who like losing 4-9 times in row

Also Allods have problem that thay lost this 70-80% base of players and in game left only ppl with platinum card+ or ppl naturally skilled, or both becose rest are on "vacations"

Casuals got free epics scrols, armor shells, dog mount, runes 6-7, and big disscount for pa5 but diference is still too big thay need face better skilled players cuz thay play 5-7y and cashshop

Good solution culd be if you join bg or 3x3/6x6 your gear and cs no matter, and cs you can use only in dominium/open world, also if you kill someone in open world you culd get 50-100 fate elixirs or other reward

If you was on 3x3 turrnament server, you culd notice how many ppl just came to fight 3x3 before turrnament start, but in allods f2p, only hights cs ppl join ther, or ppl who trade for spark exp cuz thay know thay have no chance

Or you just go p2p server and all problems gone

you honor me but i surely had the same, no, i had worse difficulties than everyone else, when i started the game. i was a rookie aswell... back in lv 51 patch this meant for me runes 211-111, no mount, no lootpet (until i won one at level 40!), no items at all (free player!) plus playing the most underpowered class at this time which was warrior... i got stuck in coba plateau and eventually found out i actually had to grind 3 whole levels as there was an exp gap. when at level 40 i won some crystals from an event and could make 3 level 3 runes i felt so powerful, like a servant of god with the level 3 runes. i did not even think of defense runes. lol. everyone else had at least level 5 runes from what i remember, veterans often hat level7,8 or even 9.when i reached level 51 after leveling like 2 months (i played mjultiple hours every day) in astral my damage was worse than the dmg of the tank. it was hard to find players and mercenaries costed a LOT of gold(in relation). i faced a lot other hard things but i went through it as i liked the game. even as a undergared underruned oneshot i enjoyed PVP. why? because i knew, if i kept it up, one day i would be the one oneshotting players. every defeat is an educational win. you learn what matters and eventually you become a 2 shot instead of an oneshot. thats a 50% improvement! also ther are those who are worse than you. when you have level 3 runes you will focus on the level 1 runed players. easy win. satisfaction. if you are level 1 runed, you go the the leveling zones and kill lowlevel. even if they have level 13 runes due to the geardifference you will kill them with 1 shot. you also earn how to remove yourself incase a stronger player comes, denying their kill. this makes them angry and keeps you alive, satisfaction again.

i also had no "mmo" experience at all except playing "diablo2" offline and on LAN with friends (never played it online). i normally only play shootergames, strategygames and erotic games. what kept me getting better was the power of will inside me. game felt like getting exponentially easier. thats what i love about it.

while those who really "can not" play good certainly exist ("eternal noobs"), much more players simply do not really want it enough. this is a pity because if you take your hobby serious, its a lot more fun. but to each his own!

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Are you guys Happy with the no contest in domi/3v3/6v6?

ah, now i see why i dont feel affected by this at all, i dont do these activities.
this is not sarcasm, i really never got what ppl meant with "not enough players"
they should bring 1 vs 1 battles, would atract a lot of players (see my signature in case you wonder how 1vs1 can work)

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Ofc it's bored when you win evry domi/3vs3/6vs6 cuz of cash diference
In p2p you actuali need fight for your win

but isnt it like the top participaters all have "full cs" anyway so its again down to gear/teamplay/skill ?

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You can also take Brino as example, he is a PURE F2P player, never spent a dime, he just knows HOW to get money and shit, u cant blame it on "oh but you have more cs" when ppl have 11´s and almost full cs as a F2P player.

^this
players who know how to thrive in this game even without ANY donation exist, so it is definitely possible.


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allods online is what is called a "hidden gem". this game was and IS an EXCELLENT game which is beyond others, gamemechanics, gameplay and all these things are superior.
many players nowadays are not focussed enough to play "deep" games like allods. they want instant gratification with no effort and have an attentionspan like a bent spoon. amount of "sheep" people is increasing. thats why every mmo which is a little more complex has to deal with lower playerbases than games which are easy to learn like shootergames. poor management or the existence of itemshops are factors of decreasing playerbases but not the only reason.

but be sure, when next patch comes, players will come back again, as always...
one day there will be a merge with russian servers and given how popular the game is among russia this will ultimately fix everyones concerns regarding population. they have more than 1 full server there. if our server gets added and opened to new players im sure new players will join it a lot...

Bring back Iithium and do whatever he say.


That is the solve of our problem.

Lets set some facts straight here.

Game was losing players for years and just recently large portion of those who were staying quitted.

Population was only 5-10 thousands few years ago and in last year according to my rough guess it was around 1k but in last months probably only 400-800 active.

It is well known why they were leaving and why so many of them left not long ago and the answer is too much cashop.

For those who dont know, around time russian server received same patches as this server did in past months with the new temp perfection carnifex scrolls many of long time players and most popular streamers quit because as they said they could not keep up with so many many many more new expiring p2w crap buying farming reseting gear and getting 1 shoted in pvp.

What you should also expect very soon we receive more things like a new temp conclave, jeweler and trinket also new box with turrets and more temp expiring crap.

When so few players are left in game, group content like battlegrounds, astrals, observatory, heroics, combats, raids start less and take longer which bores players who have to wait for them and keep watching to not miss that as well combined with some bad queue mechanics.

This state is almost like a village but sadly when you in this village your neighbours who have 13 runes full cashop and gear like for example most asc focus you for being weaker not having everything maxed out like them while obviously they dont attack each other because its easy to farm weak but not equal.

Be it cause of cashop differences or getting harrased out by toxic gankers (who usually have much more cashop and gear then them) newbie or casual players quit.

Its even comical how 13 rune kids who spent most are badly afraid to lose their investment so they cry to merge with russian server, its like they sawed branch under their own feet

Every day you can now hear crying in both factions world chat plzzz que bg plzzz to make it pop.

Those who buy most advantage are usually those most cowardly wanting to stomp on others who did not, this was not normal in past but over years game companies started to cater to spoiled kids milking them for easy money and creating these toxic communities which are considered normal while all other decent players who disagree have to quit because noooone cares about their opinion.

Guess what, your opinion that your playstyle is normal is not only one and probably not correct one either.
It is easily visible from fact that your are so few here and so many other players quit be it from being bullied out or being the bullies who became bored of waiting for some bg to pop.

You know what kind of players stay in game? Happy players. You know what players quit in game? Unhappy players.

Ofc everyone knew what they were installing but this company keeps making it worse instead of improving while it already was bad years ago, and why is that I have no clue when can just look on other games.

Different MMO which sells costumes, mounts, equipment enchants, collector editions (and repeats their sale yearly not just 1 time) it has 20k+ players.
Another MMO which sells costumes, mounts, pets, weapon skins, boosters it has 40k+ players.
Lastly MMO which only sells character skins, loading screens, deathmarks, voicepacks and 0 p2w cashop it has 60k+ players.

Funny is even if you get merged to russia it will go downhill there too because you just merging servers and u dont solve reason why you lose players in first place.

I am surprised you guys are still in this game ... so many games out there and you decided to waste time here . Devs are money hungry . Game is dead .

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cash diff? we have won most stuff and im less cs than most in the "good groups"
You can also take Brino as example, he is a PURE F2P player, never spent a dime, he just knows HOW to get money and shit, u cant blame it on "oh but you have more cs" when ppl have 11´s and almost full cs as a F2P player.

I think you missed my point, i'm not teling it's imposible to kill more cs player, but notice Brino have 11 runes, Allods have 13, i have 9, we spended inaf time to close cs gap with skill but it costed alot of time, dedication to becoming better and curage, ppl like that are 1-3% as chalanger rank


problem is 70% of ppl who play like bronz-gold geting one-two shoted cuz lack of thay knowlage in stats/build or motivation to geting better, on top of that thay lacing cs.

Resulting in that thay hit you for 1-3% of hp while thay geting 60-80% hp 1 shot hit cuz diference in skill and cs is too much

you schold be able do 20-30% max more with cs/skill diference, and noob player 20-25% max 35% less if it's totaly noob with 2 left hends

Even if thay are bronze-gold thay schold at last do some dmg, or matter, or at last not be totaly usless, oterwise you geting fealing enemy win not cuz his better, but cuz cheating with cash (cuz it's the eaziest to blame)

Yet for stats/build change you need pay 250bc as new player

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many players nowadays are not focussed enough to play "deep" games like allods.

Thats true it's not 2014y anymore, and not evryone will want sacriface long time to get stronger, if on start your loced in evry side as hell
Thats why changes need be done, to give bad players inaf hendicap thay will can play game at last

Solution is to make gear/cs no matter only for bg
And for 3vs3, 6vs6 losing team geting 25-30 coins
Domi stay as it is

Merge gona fix population problem, but not mechanics problem

imagine that there was no option to get the blue crystals (BC) with $ and you could ONLY get them with gold-conversion. so basically a version of the game without donations but still exactly the same content
those who play with dedication and farm and learn about the game and so on will get what strong.

those who want the same as the farmers but are lazy cant buy BC. what will they do? they will give money to a farmer who will farm items for them (or give them the items). $ goes to players instead of the company who runs the game. (so it is better to offer the option to get BC from donation diretcly to lock out 3rd party goldsellers and lose $)

so the thing which makes a huge gap between strenght possible is ACTUALLY not the $ but the wide variety of improvements possible. a game like allods is a stateful game. you improve your state and keep it. opposite is a stateless game, for example counterstrike, soccer or moba-games. every new round is the same, only difference is skill. a very talented player will be equal to a player who is there for 7 years within weeks.

i LOVE how investing my time gives me advantages and i LOVE how a strong player can simply kill a rookie. i loved it already when i was the 221 111 runed rookie. if allods were a stateless game i would probably have already quitted it (like i did with several shooter games). its frustrating if you reach maximum of what is possible in a game and there is nothing left to go. well, you might enjoy it and play like a few minutes per day but thats it. you know everything, you can do everything, game over. in a stateful game like allods, even with having almost everything there are still things to go.
for. i am actually happy there are new items from shop from time to time.

some days ago i just got my "confession of the


carnifex" item (teal gehanna bloodlust killbonus). it is so satisfying to see how the killed player burns in hellfire. since i had almost all my funds "locked" in items on sale i needed to actually farm it. i understand not everyone enjoys this but i do and i want to share this experience and tell its enjoyable for some. sure, i could have just donated and got it instant. considering what "farming" in RL 1 hour gets me it is ridiculous i farm in game at all. but it gives me joy, thats why i do it.

so the itemshop can not be the sole problem.

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new temp perfection carnifex scrolls many of long time players and most popular streamers quit because as they said they could not keep up

i am NOT a firend of the timed items. they should become permanent. but they are not enough of an inconvenience to stop playing this game, LOL.
also, which NEW carnifex temporary item? there is only one (OLD) carnifex item, the wings of the executor (180 days). it goes for like 500 BC usually, thats what a farmer gets in 2 days. so 2 days of my "game-income" for 180 days is possible.

if someone is a quitter but blames itemshop it is weird. usually those who blame everything on itemshop are the same ones who in a statless game (like shootergames; counterstrike etc) call everyone who plays good a hacker or aimbot-user. these are the ones who are NEVER satisfied, even if you spoonffed them with a Silver spoon. they are hopeless and the only thing they are good for is getting lulz from them when you see how they rage
thankfully these are a (very) small minority and normal players are not like this

the community here is very good compared to other games as i see people come (mostly) up wth reasonable arguments and go for a dialogue which results in serious recommendations on what can be done to make everyone happy (again)

constructive critic is a fundament of improving a game. pointless ranting and blaming every problem on items is silly.

@ALLODS-ONLINE-PLAYER

Well baited, finally, I was patiently waiting for this one.

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imagine that there was no option to get the blue crystals (BC) with $ and you could ONLY get them with gold-conversion. so basically a version of the game without donations but still exactly the same content
those who play with dedication and farm and learn about the game and so on will get what strong.
those who want the same as the farmers but are lazy cant buy BC. what will they do? they will give money to a farmer who will farm items for them (or give them the items). $ goes to players instead of the company who runs the game. (so it is better to offer the option to get BC from donation diretcly to lock out 3rd party goldsellers and lose $)

Imo option to spend money for something and then farm and exchange bc for something else is one of good and best things this game has over other mmos.
Someone like me I purchased few collectors editions and compasses for money but then I farmed to get any p2w cashop as an effort to improve not by paying but playing.

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iam NOT a firend of the timed items. they should become permanent. but they are not enough of an inconvenience to stop playing this game, LOL. also, which NEW carnifex temporary item? there is only one (OLD) carnifex item, the wings of the executor (180 days). it goes for like 500 BC usually, thats what a farmer gets in 2 days. so 2 days of my "game-income" for 180 days is possible.

If this is hard to understand I am gonna spell it out 1 by 1 for you, new temporary perfection which adds you something like 7% more dmg and new permanent carnifex gehena which is so ugly some dont even want it for the buff.

Temporary items are probably disliked by almost everyone except those who have infinite money to wipe their as -ehm Butts with.

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some days ago i just got my "confession of the carnifex" item (teal gehanna bloodlust killbonus). it is so satisfying to see how the killed player burns in hellfire. since i had almost all my funds "locked" in items on sale i needed to actually farm it. i understand not everyone enjoys this but i do and i want to share this experience and tell its enjoyable for some. sure, i could have just donated and got it instant. considering what "farming" in RL 1 hour gets me it is ridiculous i farm in game at all. but it gives me joy, thats why i do it.

Dont forget mention few more times how you started with poor 2111 runes same as completely f2p brino but guess what I did too start with 21111 and had no mount for half year and no looter pet for a year also I had to throw out costumes because there was no wardrobe and my bag was always full.
So you farmed 9 runes in like 5 years, thats impressive but imagine that I farmed 10 runes in less time than your.

But lets get to important part what you always forget mention in your story about farming and improving that after you farmed 9 runes then you spent 10k € and made full 13 runes?
Yea i know, besides that your hard farmed 9 are only 1/16th of full 13 runes so you could spend even 50+ years at your pace to get there.

If it was me and I had 10k € laying around and I was not mentally handicapped Id first buy a 9 runes instead of playing with 21111 saving rest of mony and slowly farm or pay for new things to come, that almost sounds like better idea doesnt it?

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so the thing which makes a huge gap between strenght possible is ACTUALLY not the $ but the wide variety of improvements possible. a game like allods is a stateful game. you improve your state and keep it. opposite is a stateless game, for example counterstrike, soccer or moba-games. every new round is the same, only difference is skill. a very talented player will be equal to a player who is there for 7 years within weeks.

Every time you speak on this forum you always vehemently advocating cashop and saying its not important at all and that other ppl dont need mind it so much because having it makes no difference and also encouraging all to join f2p and discouraging from "dead" empty p2p for some unknown reason.

Maybe others get duped by this your act but for sure I dont, lets look on your possible motivation for your constant lying.

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i LOVE how investing my time gives me advantages and i LOVE how a strong player can simply kill a rookie. i loved it already when i was the 221 111 runed rookie. if allods were a stateless game i would probably have already quitted it (like i did with several shooter games). its frustrating if you reach maximum of what is possible in a game and there is nothing left to go. well, you might enjoy it and play like a few minutes per day but thats it. you know everything, you can do everything, game over. in a stateful game like allods, even with having almost everything there are still things to go.for. i am actually happy there are new items from shop from time to time.

Often happens when someone begins as poor rookie getting 1 shot by those better skilled (and p2w) players you start dreaming of day when you will be the one 1 shoting some rookies instead.

Altho you say cashop isnt important to you its worth 10k € which seems like quite important to me but not all have same standards ofc.Reason why you think that it doesnt give so much advantage because I saw you in game be it pvp or pve with your gear and runes your performance laughably sucks.Even you having 60% 40% 20% more damage than some other they still outdps you even when they have lower gear and that makes you think your cashop is weak when in fact its because you have no skill.

As I previously said this thread is full of 13 runes like you who becoming bored and afraid that they end up stuck on empty server spinning thumbs until something is done.Oh wait theres easy way to check who spends on this forum most trying help new players (for no selfish reasons) advising players (for no selfish reasons) participating in all talk for (well im sure with no utterly motives) just making this active and helpful place.

All I need do is just click on "Members" there is list of players on forum and when I click to order by highest number of posts there is ALLODS-ONLINE-PLAYER with a far lead of 4975 posts even before CM.
Thiz weird iznt it huh how come someone who say I like 1 shoting 1 runed rookies in leveling zones and who say I like to annoy others because it makes me happy to make others unhappy, how come he spends so much time on forum helping the exact ones poor rookies with advices ? Hmmmmm its hard to figure out but I think that cause if ppl quit game or if they go from f2p to p2p like noah well he wouldnt have anyone to harrass with his all unimportant cashop he paid so much for, thats probably how it is.

More you spend here pretending to be helpful and repeating like broken gramophone about blah bla blah I started as 2111 farmed and improved (didnt) cashop no important dont join p2p...

You just embarass yourself more and more in eyes of at least some who arent part of herd of sheep with blinkers over eyes.

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if someone is a quitter but blames itemshop it is weird. usually those who blame everything on itemshop are the same ones who in a statless game (like shootergames; counterstrike etc) call everyone who plays good a hacker or aimbot-user. these are the ones who are NEVER satisfied, even if you spoonffed them with a Silver spoon. they are hopeless and the
only thing they are good for is getting lulz from them when you see how they rage thankfully these are a (very) small minority and normal players are not like this

No matter what you say in end they either merge or have to do some crazy miracle to reverse this soon.

While merge is good idea for simply having players to play with instead of afking in yasker it is question how many players in ru even are active cause while cross server queues allow players join together, each single of server might not have 10x larger population as some of you expect.

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the community here is very good compared to other games as i see people come (mostly) up wth reasonable arguments and go for a dialogue which results in serious recommendations on what can be done to make everyone happy (again)
constructive critic is a fundament of improving a game. pointless ranting and blaming every problem on items is silly.

Maybe if I like im gonna show you some suggestions and pros/cons of game as constructive criticism but that depends if its worth even try prove something to anyone who dont care about actual Truth repeating their lies.

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Dont forget mention few more times how you started with poor 2111 runes same as completely f2p brino but guess what I did too start with 21111 and had no mount for half year and no looter pet for a year also I had to throw out costumes because there was no wardrobe and my bag was always full.
So you farmed 9 runes in like 5 years, thats impressive but imagine that I farmed 10 runes in less time than your.

But lets get to important part what you always forget mention in your story about farming and improving that after you farmed 9 runes then you spent 10k € and made full 13 runes?
Yea i know, besides that your hard farmed 9 are only 1/16th of full 13 runes so you could spend even 50+ years at your pace to get there.

If it was me and I had 10k € laying around and I was not mentally handicapped Id first buy a 9 runes instead of playing with 21111 saving rest of mony and slowly farm or pay for new things to come, that almost sounds like better idea doesnt it?

Cash shop is not problem itself, thers ppl who like poverupgrading like aop but problem is thay are 5% of comunity what like it rest 25% pay for it and geting fun

Problem is times changed, and ppl like more fashion wars on costumes, upraging his home, or anythink what not give you advantage while fighting, becose thay geting fun when thay kill somone thx to skill not to bigger time investment or wallet

Allods making only poverlevel events, and costumes or visual thinks are rare added, in p2p even more rare so ppl who prefer visual thinks, mounts or anythink have nothink new to do/invest

Thats why Guild wars 2 for exemple have over +50 servers, cuz ther casual player building max ascended eq, then he can focus on exploring world or fight in pvp when gear no matter but you still chosing stats and glyps or chose wvw wher your gear matter, on top of that you chaning build for free whatever place you are, and ascender gear give you max 10-20% advantage, so even in wvw you geting fun (wvw is like bigger bg but with more objectives) or spend time farming to unlock sezons ( main story after endgame) and he pay max for expanshion what bring many thinks and is evry 2-4y
Thers no fraction open world pvp (until you join server vs server) but thers alot events on maps you can even back with full level and still get somethink, you more spending time with another ppl and exploring, or upgrading guild/home instantion, so it's more social game, thers no mercenarys for dungs, but evryone can do dungs even having more lv/gear cuz you geting stats cut

In allods no one will come to dungeon cuz after lv cap thers no reason
Thats why once you finish full level in allods, even in f2p from 1lv to 85lv you play in singleplayer game, max you can spot ppl close to tka-rika or on Ammer Dionistic cuz ther you farming for guild prestige or costumes

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Every time you speak on this forum you always vehemently advocating cashop and saying its not important at all and that other ppl dont need mind it so much because having it makes no difference and also encouraging all to join f2p and discouraging from "dead" empty p2p for some unknown reason.

Maybe others get duped by this your act but for sure I dont, lets look on your possible motivation for your constant lying.

with evry day more ppl coming for p2p, as more ppl prefering this system in 2019, insted of killing themselfe on f2p, main problem is in p2p thers not inaf ppl to keep up evry event 24/7h, and thers not many items you can trade cuz most visual cs is bound to player, so like it's game witchout economy, you focus only to chalange yourself to bicome better, kick some butts in domis or do highter lv heroics or obs

Rest of your arguments are more heatspeach so i no answer for them

Ah shit, here we go again