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Weapons don't matter anymore. They do not affect melee skills cooldowns anymore, and any 2 handed weapons and paired weapons output the same damage. Also 1 handed + offhand damage outputs combined equal the damage of 2 handed or paired. Nobody talked about that simply because it's been completely irrelevant for ages now. Shields have no damage output so 1 handed + shield will be lower damage, and are used by warrior and paladin when tanking, and maybe on full heal priest or especially defensive support priest, but don't quote me on that. For everything else, it literally doesn't matter which weapon you use.

yep i told about paried weapon cuz engi can't wearing 2h sword, mace etc, but thay are equal with pover to paried weapons engi can wear
only 1 hend weapon have lower performenc

ofc othe class have diferent scalings, you can check it by taking off wand/bow and 2h, for what spells that weapons are response

i mentioned about weapons in engi, cuz wand is response for acid spells, and weapon for psychical spells, so as my build was mostly psychical, and when you hit wirh reactor it do 100% physcial dmg(-200), or 50% acid and 50% psychical(+200) on reactor blowdown spell on dps engi, so your priority as eng is find weapon first, wand secound

so if your acid engi support you mostly not care about weapon (but i not tested what response for collosus and nuke yet, need confrim it yet)

thinked it's info will help for gearing ppl or leveling one, thats why i puted it ther

some class can wear shield, if thay do thay got some chance to "parry" attack and reduce it dmg by 50% if i good remember

other offhends don't do anythink expect of giving you some stats, but thay not give you more weapon dmg so it's ussles to have them insted of 2h on dps spec, cuz your cuting your dmg by half on skills wher main weapon response for them

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some class can wear shield, if thay do thay got some chance to "parry" attack and reduce it dmg by 50% if i good remember

other offhends don't do anythink expect of giving you some stats, but thay not give you more weapon dmg so it's ussles to have them insted of 2h on dps spec, cuz your cuting your dmg by half on skills wher main weapon response for them

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What do you think about the tandem DAGGER-WAND-OFFHAND?

Will you cast faster?, cause you ain't hitting harder, and not that you need it since you'll be using mages (including summies) here..

You won't cast faster. Offhand + onehand is exactly same thing as using paired swords or 2h mace or whatever other 2 slot weapon.
Offhand don't offer resistances anymore, true. Now they contribute to damage done instead. Useless? No. Just another option if you dont like the looks of 2 slots weapons.

So, 2handed, paired, 1handed+offhand will all give you full damage.
1handed+shield will give less damage but additional physical resistance (armor).

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Offhand + onehand is exactly same thing as using paired swords or 2h mace or whatever other 2 slot weapon.

50% less dmg bro

while we are at this topic, here is a hint: if you get a drop which is a weapon you cant use (example: you get a bow as a sorcerer), go to KOE (kingdom of elements) and buy the purple insignia from the vendor there ("change weapon look")
this will change your bow to a wand which the sorcerer can use (works the other way aswell and with meleeweapons)

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Offhand + onehand is exactly same thing as using paired swords or 2h mace or whatever other 2 slot weapon.

50% less dmg bro

I'll have you know, normal people don't use basic attack in their rotations. Try with actual melee skills, and you'll see the damage is the same. Actually, don't even try, just sum up the damage from one hand weapon's tooltip + damage from offhand's tooltip and compare it to the damage on 2hand weapon's tooltip, and you'll see it's the same number. Or, i'll make it even easier for you, scroll down on your stats, where it says "Melee Damage" and you will see it's the same damn number.

hm

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I'll have you know, normal people don't use basic attack in their rotations.

it was not basic attack, it was gapshoot who is part of rotation on enginner and it's skill

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Try with actual melee skills, and you'll see the damage is the same.

idk why but enginner is enginner, here your dmg drop by 50% when your using grapshot wearing offhend+dagger

i tested other classes and your right

thats why i placed this info in enginner guide as i noticed that diference 1-2y ago and it's still until now

? I tested on engi still same dmg

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I tested on engi still same dmg

can you make ss?

i tested that on dps spec, so mybe only dps spec have problem, you saw my ss, on one+off i did 12k per hit on paried 23k

and are you sure you used grapshoot for test? cuz yes other skills are not effected

if yes, gona write bug repport cuz we confirmed other class don't have that bulshit

doesnt matter Daniel, the only diff is drops, if u get 1h and off hand before 2h use those, or wice verse, Insignias is the same amount to upgrade them (1h and offhand is 1 per 1%, 2h is 2 per 1%)