Empire managed to do dc with roughly 12 people, and have killed bouncer with 2 tanks with around 12 people (in average of blue/epic gear) in the past. League should learn to just do it instead of thinking about it.
I haven't seen what empire's lovely guild is about but it's probably the same.
we are doing great we cleared tep in the fasted time ever today, and manage to get first ecplise boss to 60% without a full raid and without caring what gear ppl had.